Supreme Novices 2017

[Faugheen_Machine]

I can't see why they wouldn't run him. Mullins will probably run 3 or 4 I'd imagine

 

[mayo]

I'll make it my hungover Sunday morning task

and on racing UK this morning

Ballyandy is more likely to go for the Neptune Investment Management Hurdle:

Ballyandy’s colourful ownership group probably edged the celebration stakes in comparison to Tobefair’s syndicate when the Champion Bumper winner took the Betfair Hurdle.

Ballyandy justified market support and paid back punters who had driven him down to 3-1 with a battling win over Movetimesthetimes by three quarters of a length.

Immediately after the race trainer Nigel Twiston-Davies mentioned the Sky Bet Supreme Novices’ Hurdle, but then had a rethink and included the 2m5f race in his plans.

 

[Kevloaf]

*takes a bow*

 

[mayo]

*takes a bow*

Impossible is nothing :triumphant:

 

[jono]

Haha!! Impressive... (now looking through my antepost book for failed bets for other trainers you can call up for me )

Pipe on Moonracer after yesterday:

Moon Racer figures prominently in betting on the Supreme but also holds an entry in the Champion Hurdle and the trainer expects to leave a decision on his final target until a late stage.

“I think he’ll be left in both races at the five-day stage and then we’ll see,” Pipe said.

“The deciding factors might be things like the strength of the opposition and how he is in himself.”

The trainer added that Moon Racer’s age must come into the discussion. The horse is now eight and it would be understandable if connections decided not to wait until he is nine before tackling the Champion Hurdle.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

I listened to NTD interview on RUK this morning and it was almost the exact opposite to what he said on ITV straight after the race. Basically, he said supreme if it's soft, Neptune if it's better ground and he'd also see what mark the handicapper have him so didn't rule handicaps out either

 

[mayo]

Yep

His trainer added: "He'll get an entry in the Coral Cup as well."

Bookmakers generally halved his odds to 8-1 for both novice races but the winning rider's immediate reaction was that the longer Neptune would play to Ballyandy's strengths.

The trainer, winning his second Betfair Hurdle after Splash Of Ginge in 2014, added: "After that I think the world is his oyster as he can only go on from this race and I'd like to think he'll be a better horse next year as well.

"But what a race and we'll savour winning this one before thinking about later in the season."

 

[Mytentoryours1]

Wow, what an impressive race in defeat by Bunk Off Early. 16/1 still available which seems very big.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

He was an eye catcher but I've put a big question mark over that form. I'd be surprised if any of those won a grade 1 at Cheltenham.

 

[doctorwu]

Wow, what an impressive race in defeat by Bunk Off Early. 16/1 still available which seems very big.

flatbreds don't win supremes. that said, im out with the washing with regards to this race. happy to be called a fool, as i clearly have been. over and out.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

flatbreds don't win supremes. that said, im out with the washing with regards to this race. happy to be called a fool, as i clearly have been. over and out.

Arcalis did.......

 

[Kevloaf]

He was an eye catcher but I've put a big question mark over that form. I'd be surprised if any of those won a grade 1 at Cheltenham.

Maybe Saturnas

Made a noise apparently.

 

[Istabraq]

Flat breds used to dominate the Supreme, all changed about 15/20 years ago....

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Cinders and Ashes flat bred too??

 

[mayo]

Altior is by High Chapparal which would suggest duel purpose sire at best.

 

[Mytentoryours1]

Agree with the comments about it not being a great race. However I thought 16/1 considering he did everything wrong and still nearly won was reasonable in a race where there don't look to be any stars at this stage.

 

[Zoowraa]

I am becoming more and more convinced Finian's Oscar is turning up in this race and will take all the beating.
The Neptune is shaping up to be such a hot race, whilst the Supreme lacks any superstar with the possible exception of Melon. A good number of horses in the Supreme betting look like the Neptune is a potentially better target and I don't think any of them look as impressive as either Finian's Oscar or Neon Wolf over 2miles so far.
I can see one of these two ending up here and I just sense Tizzard is leaning towards the Supreme more than Fry is.
The Supreme just has such an funny shape to it at present, of the rest Airlie Beach is interesting at 14s but not been seen for a while now.
I think the 8/1 NRNB is too tempting to turn down and have backed it tonight. I really think we are looking at the 7/2 favourite come the off.

 

[Al Ferof]

I am becoming more and more convinced Finian's Oscar is turning up in this race and will take all the beating.
The Neptune is shaping up to be such a hot race, whilst the Supreme lacks any superstar with the possible exception of Melon. A good number of horses in the Supreme betting look like the Neptune is a potentially better target and I don't think any of them look as impressive as either Finian's Oscar or Neon Wolf over 2miles so far.
I can see one of these two ending up here and I just sense Tizzard is leaning towards the Supreme more than Fry is.
The Supreme just has such an funny shape to it at present, of the rest Airlie Beach is interesting at 14s but not been seen for a while now.
I think the 8/1 NRNB is too tempting to turn down and have backed it tonight. I really think we are looking at the 7/2 favourite come the off.

If you want to chance Airlie Beach in the Supreme then do so on the exchange- massive price (suggesting she is mares novice bound).

 

[Kevloaf]

With Bunk Off Early not doing his chances any harm I can't see any way for Airlie Beach to turn up in this race? BOE has nowhere else to go and Airlie Beach is fav for the Mares Nov version.

I hope Finian's Oscar OR Neon Wolf turn up here... although I am loads sweeter on Neon Wolf than FO. I feel like FO has been quite lucky in how impressive he has looked and there is absolutely nothing generous about his odds, because people are going WAY OVERBOARD because of the Tizzard factor.

 

[MrMcGoldrick]

I think Bunk off early will be a different proposition on decent ground, it was a testament to how good he is to put in a performance like that on ground that was far softer than ideal