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Kevloaf said:
You've known since March where he's going :distant:

Plenty of time to get used to it :apple::apple:
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Have I????:boxing:

It's an uncharacteristically terrible decision from an outfit that doesn't waste top bullets. He wont beat CH and there's every chance he wont be better than State Man.
 
Topofthegame2021 said:
Me too… what do you usually use?

I’ve heard Google docs is good and can access from a mobile. Not done a spreadsheet before myself. Like the ‘written’ format but was difficult to keep up last year :biggrin-new:
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Excel :eagerness:

Pivot tables everywhere
 
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charlie said:
Have I????:boxing:

It's an uncharacteristically terrible decision from an outfit that doesn't waste top bullets. He wont beat CH and there's every chance he wont be better than State Man.
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Will they try ganging up on CH ??
 
charlie said:
Have I????:boxing:

It's an uncharacteristically terrible decision from an outfit that doesn't waste top bullets. He wont beat CH and there's every chance he wont be better than State Man.
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Have there been quotes stating the Champion Hurdle is the target ?
Is it possible they’ll swerve Cheltenham and maybe look at Aintree Hurdle/Punchestown as season priority ?
 
Istabraq said:
Have there been quotes stating the Champion Hurdle is the target ?
Is it possible they’ll swerve Cheltenham and maybe look at Aintree Hurdle/Punchestown as season priority ?
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Road To Cheltenham said on twitter quoting Mullins long term aim CH.
 
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charlie said:
Have I????:boxing:

It's an uncharacteristically terrible decision from an outfit that doesn't waste top bullets. He wont beat CH and there's every chance he wont be better than State Man.
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I’m not invested but would be pretty confident he’s Willie’s number one CH contender next March.

Nailed on 6-1 each way chance imo.
 
nortonscoin200 said:
I’m not invested but would be pretty confident he’s Willie’s number one CH contender next March.

Nailed on 6-1 each way chance imo.
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Maybe he will be in time, but State Man is proven in open company and we all know good novices don't always make the step up.
 
I've not backed State Man (6/1) and have Impaire Et Passe (6/1)

Are you stopping yourself as you feel he's going the wrong way?

I feel like I know State Man can't win, IEP still has potential ..... if his last run had been the Ballymore, people would be keener.

Although 6/1 e/w isn't as appealing as it was before knowing Constitution Hill is staying over hurdles....

6/1 this far out (whilst I agree is a good each way bet) isn't a good each way ante post bet in September IMO
 
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charlie said:
Maybe he will be in time, but State Man is proven in open company and we all know good novices don't always make the step up.
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Yeah this. I can’t believe the disrespect on State Man’s name on the exchange. Twice the price of IEP. IEP might be better in time but he really hasn’t proven it at 2m. I’d not be surprised if he ends up in the stayers.
 
nortonscoin200 said:
I’m not invested but would be pretty confident he’s Willie’s number one CH contender next March.

Nailed on 6-1 each way chance imo.
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Not sure his price is right but I like the novice hurdlers from last season
the form is quite solid looking overall
which makes the supreme and ballymore winners look above average.
Would not surprise me if impaire gets closer to CH in March than anything he faced last season.
And paddy power going 25-1 marine nationale tempted me for a bit.
But he’s likely an exchange play once he’s ran over fences.
 
Comment from WPM on Impaire et Passe:

"Impaire Et Passe will stay over hurdles. It's going to be exciting to see what he can do out of novice company. Ballymore winners have a good record in the Champion Hurdle the following season, it has worked out to be a very good trial over the years. The last time I spoke to Simon [Munir, owner], everyone seemed keen to stay over hurdles so that was fine by me."
 
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I have long suggested that IEP would be willies champion hurdle horse. Was informed following Cheltenham. I wouldn’t post any disinformation or tuck anyone away, but I can’t feel that it’s just fallen on deaf ears. Very difficult to dissuade the turners backers on this forum that there’s another viable option. We are we’re we are. I feel a lot of willies post race comments have been a little impetuous and not thought through. But people pick up a phrase they like and count it as gospel. It’s the magic of antepost betting. We don’t always get it right, but often the answer is staring us in the face.
 
Can equally apply his post race comments to Gaelic warrior. Will he really go stayers hurdle when Willie has the first two in the punchestown stayers hurdle, no real strong opposition and he has no proper BANC horse. Lost twice over hurdles at last two festivals. Lose for a third time? No, over a fence and see if he fulfills his potential
 
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Guinness Village said:
Can equally apply his post race comments to Gaelic warrior. Will he really go stayers hurdle when Willie has the first two in the punchestown stayers hurdle, no real strong opposition and he has no proper BANC horse. Lost twice over hurdles at last two festivals. Lose for a third time? No, over a fence and see if he fulfills his potential
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That one may be cleared up with the OJA publication shortly.
 
Kevloaf said:
I've not backed State Man (6/1) and have Impaire Et Passe (6/1)

6/1 this far out (whilst I agree is a good each way bet) isn't a good each way ante post bet in September IMO
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Not convinced 6/1 each way is ever a great bet, handy to include in multiples where three of them makes a 19/2 treble so the better bet is the 'to be placed' which I'm sure will be around even money mark but, as we know, this is an account killing market.

If anyone is a fan of IEP and considering backing him now I think you're effectively backing a Constitution Hill injury.
I would suggest wait until nearer the time when the fav is 1/5 and IEP is a very similar price to what he is now, get all the NRNB protection plus all the extra places on your side...
 
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