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as a backer of nick rocket Im hoping that thecompanysergant runs well in the 2.30 at galway today
 
Exar Essay said:
Yeah almost certainly a hurdles campaign beckoning for those two. The 33/1 about You Oughta Know for the Ballymore is jumping out at me (again). I was seriously taken by his performance. Bred to stay but looked to have more than enough turn of foot for the mid-trip.
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Regarding Willie keeping his top team back for November/December seasonal debuts: Although that has usually been the case Champ Kiely (3rd in the Bally) made his hurdling debut at Galway last July and Easy Game did the same in 2018 before finishing an unplaced second favourite (as Willie's number one dart) in the Ballymore with Ruby on board.

So You Oughta Know's appearance tomorrow may not be that big a negative - specially if he can improve significantly on his 128 debut rpr.

As you say Exar Essay, the 33-1 does stand out particularly as PP make him a 12-1 shot.

I'm on board and sorely tempted to top up before tomorrow. Might delay the decision and wait to see how strong he is in the market.
 
nortonscoin200 said:
Regarding Willie keeping his top team back for November/December seasonal debuts: Although that has usually been the case Champ Kiely (3rd in the Bally) made his hurdling debut at Galway last July and Easy Game did the same in 2018 before finishing an unplaced second favourite (as Willie's number one dart) in the Ballymore with Ruby on board.

So You Oughta Know's appearance tomorrow may not be that big a negative - specially if he can improve significantly on his 128 debut rpr.

As you say Exar Essay, the 33-1 does stand out particularly as PP make him a 12-1 shot.

I'm on board and sorely tempted to top up before tomorrow. Might delay the decision and wait to see how strong he is in the market.
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Aurora Vega out of today's bumper. You Oughta Know now a much shorter price to win today and still 33-1 with 365 - so now could be the time to strike! :eagerness:
 
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Pretty decent performance by You Oughta Know I thought.

Giving weight away to four previous winners and not being seriously put under pressure.

But 365 remain unmoved on 33-1.

Inclined to let this one run to see how things pan out later in the season.
 
nortonscoin200 said:
Pretty decent performance by You Oughta Know I thought.

Giving weight away to four previous winners and not being seriously put under pressure.

But 365 remain unmoved on 33-1.

Inclined to let this one run to see how things pan out later in the season.
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I’ll do as you are, but I was less impressed. looked workmanlike to me. Can see why others prefer him for the AB now.
 
Aye, I wasn't particularly impressed with that. Had hoped for more. Shame Aurora Vega was withdrawn as well.

Doesn't look like a Supreme type though if looking for a positive for the Ballymore bets :welcoming:
 
Benjy23 said:
Aye, I wasn't particularly impressed with that. Had hoped for more. Shame Aurora Vega was withdrawn as well.

Doesn't look like a Supreme type though if looking for a positive for the Ballymore bets :welcoming:
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IHRB report for Galway yesterday suggested "in season" as the reason for Aurora Vega NR...
 
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William Hill have Cheltenham TWAR markets up now, they are very limited in terms of what horses they are listing odds for but it's a start.

Not allowed them in multis as per standard with WH
 
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That Horse said:
William Hill have Cheltenham TWAR markets up now, they are very limited in terms of what horses they are listing odds for but it's a start.

Not allowed them in multis as per standard with WH
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….thanks for the heads-up, I imagine they’ll be popular when ‘double odds’ offer is on.
 
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….thanks for the heads-up, I imagine they’ll be popular when ‘double odds’ offer is on.
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You wear it well @12/1 the only one at the moment that I'd consider and I'd probably still wait for the next double odds boost for it
 
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Re the Festival, it looked Bartlett or B’All to me……:nevreness:
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I've also heard from a reliable source that his debut is likely to have flattered him somewhat. Happy to discuss detail via pm.
 
Anyone pick up the PN Horses in Training 2024? Anything noteworthy?
 
HesTheOne said:
Anyone pick up the PN Horses in Training 2024? Anything noteworthy?
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I don't have many of his on my radar for 2024 but I'm interested in an ex-PTP recruit called Captain Bellamy to possibly give PN another decent shot at the AB. He may not be a hurdler but he's one I'll follow in seasons to come when he goes chasing.
 
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Anyone pick up the PN Horses in Training 2024? Anything noteworthy?
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BMG will follow the same path as last season, they might ride him differently in the Gold Cup, but admits GDC will be very difficult to beat .

Frodon will go Badger Beers and Portman Cup and then be retired.

Pic D'Orhy probably the same route as last year, but will get a King George entry.

Greaneteen Haldon/Schloer and then probably up up in trip.

Stage Star probably starts in the Paddy Power with Monmiral.

Knappers Hill, Hermes, Stay Away Fay, Tahmuras, Golden Son, Monmiral, Outlaw Peter probably the main novice chasers. Hermes not the biggest, but 'very athletic'.

Complete Unknown will go for the Ladbroke - likes him a lot, but needs it soft.

He's also got Ginnys Desting (Lacey), Mofasa (Scudamore) and Washington (Murphy) who go novice chasing.

Has around 50 for novice hurdling. Inthewaterside is the biggest horse in the yard and speaks highly in particular of him, Captain Teague, Fire Flyer, Farnoge, Wrappedupinmay, Tarras Wood and Larchmont Lass.

All the big money P2P recruits likely to be in bumpers for this season (Qubecois, Histrionic, Welcom to Cartres, Captain Bellamy, Joyau Allen). He's also got Farland who went off fav for the Land Rover bumper at Punchestown. Owned by Alfie and Neil Smith, who must have dropped ?1m+ over the summer.

Light on juveniles - Midnight Lion, Liari and Not Alone.
 
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Bonjers said:
BMG will follow the same path as last season, they might ride him differently in the Gold Cup, but admits GDC will be very difficult to beat .

Frodon will go Badger Beers and Portman Cup and then be retired.

Pic D'Orhy probably the same route as last year, but will get a King George entry.

Greaneteen Haldon/Schloer and then probably up up in trip.

Stage Star probably starts in the Paddy Power with Monmiral.

Knappers Hill, Hermes, Stay Away Fay, Tahmuras, Golden Son, Monmiral, Outlaw Peter probably the main novice chasers. Hermes not the biggest, but 'very athletic'.

Complete Unknown will go for the Ladbroke - likes him a lot, but needs it soft.

He's also got Ginnys Desting (Lacey), Mofasa (Scudamore) and Washington (Murphy) who go novice chasing.

Has around 50 for novice hurdling. Inthewaterside is the biggest horse in the yard and speaks highly in particular of him, Captain Teague, Fire Flyer, Farnoge, Wrappedupinmay, Tarras Wood and Larchmont Lass.

All the big money P2P recruits likely to be in bumpers for this season (Qubecois, Histrionic, Welcom to Cartres, Captain Bellamy, Joyau Allen). He's also got Farland who went off fav for the Land Rover bumper at Punchestown. Owned by Alfie and Neil Smith, who must have dropped ?1m+ over the summer.

Light on juveniles - Midnight Lion, Liari and Not Alone.
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Farland - that's a new one for me and a very interesting purchase.
 
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