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Istabraq said:
I don’t know many with unrestricted 365 accs, mine lasted a year or so, one I used through a friend lasted a few months and was gone, both were winning accs but not massively, nowhere near the sort of numbers that would raise an obvious flag.
Another poor bookmaker, infact they are generally all poor apart from the exclusive member ones but they’re invariably only after larger players and then you’re into affordability territory, it’s near impossible and overseas options are sadly the only obvious way forward for many and that saddens me because of the impact that has relating to levy implications…
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I’m happy in a way, at least you know your doing something right when you start getting restricted, it’s probably not a good sign for a betting strategy if you bet for years and have no restrictions with any bookie, so that’s a silver lining I suppose. Think I’m going to start placing more bets using the exchange in order to prolong the lifespan of my accounts, a lot of the bets that I place can be done on the exchange anyway without any inconvenience to my betting strategy, and I’ll just use sportsbook when it’s absolutely necessary for extra places/cover bets etc.
 
If you want to see the worst ride of all time watch the 8pm at Chelmsford

Absolutely mental
 
:excitement: Just watched it. What's he doing pulling up ffs. Not sure Cosgrave has that sort of style in the locker
 
Does anybody on the board have any updates with BARRY THE BUTCHER ?
I know he's with Henry DeBromhead after his point win but was hoping to see him in a Bumper over Feb/March or even at Fairyhouse or Punchestown
Cheers
 
IstabraqBarRegular said:
Does anybody on the board have any updates with BARRY THE BUTCHER ?
I know he's with Henry DeBromhead after his point win but was hoping to see him in a Bumper over Feb/March or even at Fairyhouse or Punchestown
Cheers
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Bumper at Punchestown festival supposedly the plan last I heard
 
PresentingPercy said:
Bumper at Punchestown festival supposedly the plan last I heard
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He’s not entered on the first 3 days, but there are another 15 bumpers for the remainder of the festival so still options :excitement:

One interesting entry who someone on here mentioned is Apple’s Of Bresil for Baz Connell.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
He’s not entered on the first 3 days, but there are another 15 bumpers for the remainder of the festival so still options :excitement:

One interesting entry who someone on here mentioned is Apple’s Of Bresil for Baz Connell.
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I think they're the Grade 1 entries that are out at the moment. As you say, there's a good few more bumpers throughout the week
 
Five years seems pretty excessive if all he was doing was taking new customer offers! Although the above being true would make it seem far worse an offence imo.
 
Call it a cautionary tale for those who swap anecdotes of how they get one over on the bookies.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Saw this yesterday, 1000 accounts, wow, that's a lot of work!

Also the rumours are that he tried claiming back his losers as fraudulent transactions when he lost, which is actually why he was caught out as the bank raised concerns!
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So was it more the case he was doing something other than just placing bets on these accounts? If a friend opens an account for me, I don't see any law broken if he's inputting the bets following my advice or me doing it for him, or am I being thick?
 
YoungHustler said:
So was it more the case he was doing something other than just placing bets on these accounts? If a friend opens an account for me, I don't see any law broken if he's inputting the bets following my advice or me doing it for him, or am I being thick?
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Nope, can't see anything wrong with a friend placing the bets for you, they are the one inputting all the information.

I believe he was doing more than just placing bets and cashing in on offers, from what I've seen.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Saw this yesterday, 1000 accounts, wow, that's a lot of work!

Also the rumours are that he tried claiming back his losers as fraudulent transactions when he lost, which is actually why he was caught out as the bank raised concerns!
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Ya I had a look over a few threads on twitter, the Racing Post article is very misleading. I work in card payments industry myself so would be pretty familiar with the process - the case was brought by Santander Bank and not B365. He was supposedly claiming back all losing bets as chargebacks to Santander (basically saying he didn't authorise the money being taken off his card, so money would be returned). He would have got the funds back in all instances as the accounts would have been in somebody else's name, B365 would not have a leg to stand on if they chose to fight the claims. You do it once or twice, it's par for the course and not frowned upon. However if you do it multiple times in a short timeframe, you start to alert the authorities ie. Santander Bank and B365, and its pretty easy for them to identify patterns around the activity and then isolate the issue.

He did all the hard work with getting multiple identities and accounts open, however he fell down in claiming back money for losing bets (very naive and silly IMO). I liken it to being successful in multiple robberies, however you continue to use the same getaway car each time, which was registered in your name. He was done for card payment fraud, not actual identity theft/fraud. Anyone using accounts in other peoples names can now breathe a huge sigh of relief!!
 
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