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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

Lobos said:
That sounds more Supreme.
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Yep.

Henderson: Our horses are continuing to run well and I have to admit I was particularly impressed with Shiskin who won easily at Newbury on Wednesday. He’s a horse we’ve always thought a great deal of and it was unfortunate that he fell on his hurdles debut, but he bounced back and jumped and travelled very well to win in good style. To be honest, we would have been disappointed if he wasn’t capable of winning as he was taking on (and subsequently beat) a horse who’d previously finished second to one of ours, Mister Coffey, so we thought the form was pretty good. Nico suggested he’ll be suited but two and a half but he showed a very good turn of foot and quickened up well on that ground. He’s no mudlark by any means and could be even better on good ground. He’ll be given entries in both the Ballymore and Supreme but he’ll have to run again before Cheltenham so we may look at something like the Dovecote at Kempton in a few weeks time.
 
charlie said:
Yep.

Henderson: Our horses are continuing to run well and I have to admit I was particularly impressed with Shiskin who won easily at Newbury on Wednesday. He’s a horse we’ve always thought a great deal of and it was unfortunate that he fell on his hurdles debut, but he bounced back and jumped and travelled very well to win in good style. To be honest, we would have been disappointed if he wasn’t capable of winning as he was taking on (and subsequently beat) a horse who’d previously finished second to one of ours, Mister Coffey, so we thought the form was pretty good. Nico suggested he’ll be suited but two and a half but he showed a very good turn of foot and quickened up well on that ground. He’s no mudlark by any means and could be even better on good ground. He’ll be given entries in both the Ballymore and Supreme but he’ll have to run again before Cheltenham so we may look at something like the Dovecote at Kempton in a few weeks time.
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Sounds like they think Shiskin is superior to Mr Coffey.
 
I suppose the form line would suggest Shiskin is preferred to Coffey, based on the difference in distance they beat Skakem up’arry by, however I just can’t get away from the hype Henderson bought to the festival last year in regards to his supreme horses, which has already been mentioned here.
Law of averages means he’ll probably have one go close soon enough in the supreme, that matches the hype (obviously he had Altior) however don’t think it’s this year - I still think winner is coming from Ireland.
 
Anay Turge said:
I suppose the form line would suggest Shiskin is preferred to Coffey, based on the difference in distance they beat Skakem up’arry by, however I just can’t get away from the hype Henderson bought to the festival last year in regards to his supreme horses, which has already been mentioned here.
Law of averages means he’ll probably have one go close soon enough in the supreme, that matches the hype (obviously he had Altior) however don’t think it’s this year - I still think winner is coming from Ireland.
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Chantry house another from the yard that could be very good, but not sure he would be a supreme horse, but cud easily be.
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Incidentally see Skybet have pushed Fly Smart out to 20/1 NRNB which I don’t think will last long if and when there is an entry
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If this is still around anyone who can cash out at 25s surely should be doing so and rebacking here?

On Supreme offers, sky bet have done money back on a loser in the first race of the day for the last 2 festivals. Capped at £20 but a free cover if you are worried you’ve missed one
 
Is there any news on Figaroc? What are the chances of it being in this race?
 
The thing is Angels Breath didn't deserve the hype based on what he 'produced' prior to the festival. Shiskin looks an altogether different proposition.
 
Lobos said:
The thing is Angels Breath didn't deserve the hype based on what he 'produced' prior to the festival. Shiskin looks an altogether different proposition.
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Thats not a thing Lobos.
Angels won a grade 2 on debut, not a grade 4 novice,
He then lost in the Dovecote. And still got hyped after that, once everyone changed their nappy.
 
Lobos said:
The thing is Angels Breath didn't deserve the hype based on what he 'produced' prior to the festival. Shiskin looks an altogether different proposition.
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Don’t know how you can say that based on the opposition in that race. He may prove to be a good horse, but needs a step up before I consider the horse a contender for this.
 
Anay Turge said:
Don’t know how you can say that based on the opposition in that race. He may prove to be a good horse, but needs a step up before I consider the horse a contender for this.
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Out of interest, which race is AB targeting this year ?
 
I am slightly concerned now about my Chantry bet now if Shish is going to be the flag bearer. Just watched the race again and there is money for stolen silver tomorrow. So that might boost the form again. From memory hendo is not running him again before Cheltenham. I think the horse needs another run.
 
punterorplonker said:
I am slightly concerned now about my Chantry bet now if Shish is going to be the flag bearer. Just watched the race again and there is money for stolen silver tomorrow. So that might boost the form again. From memory hendo is not running him again before Cheltenham. I think the horse needs another run.
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Even though hendo said they wouldn’t be split I wouldn’t be surprised if both went here, especially with EA looking so strong. CH looks like he’ll benefit from step up to me and was never really on my mind for this
 
What the ******* **** happened since Wednesday?

Has Shishkin been out again and won a grade 1?

It's only Friday?!

2 days and he's gone from 14s to 7s after the race?




I haven't read the last few pages yet but I cannot believe my eyes.

That is absolutely ridiculous.
 
Oh, Ruby Walsh and Nicky Henderson talking up a horse.

I better go break into the piggy bank.




:stupid:

I'm going to be furious if I have to back him at some point :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
What the ******* **** happened since Wednesday?

Has Shishkin been out again and won a grade 1?

It's only Friday?!

2 days and he's gone from 14s to 7s after the race?




I haven't read the last few pages yet but I cannot believe my eyes.

That is absolutely ridiculous.
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Basically won it, might as well not run the race :rolleyes:
 
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