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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

Kautothegreat8 said:
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Look if Henderson just comes out and says we tried, it didn’t work so we’ll be coming back to 2 miles, I’d have absolutely no problem. We all know he’s coming back to 2 miles and in MY OPINION Henderson hasn’t had the cohones to admit defeat. As for Altior being one of the best ever..... totally disagree. Look at the division he’s been running in over the last 3 years. Not one genuine high class 2 miler to compete with other than Douvan who’s made of glass. Put him in the era 5 or 6 years back with Sizing Europe, Masterminded, Sprinter. Hell I even think Big Zeb would have beat him. Never been a fan personally, always struggles to get the job done against this current crop.

As predicted ........ Henderson is full of rubbish. Altior hasn’t come out the race well and will miss the King George yet guess what ....... he’s running the following day over two miles !!!! It’s embarrassing, just tell us the truth Nicky !!!!
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Big Zeb would absolutely not have beaten Altior over 2m round Cheltenham. He just wouldn’t.

That is all.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Big Zeb would absolutely not have beaten Altior over 2m round Cheltenham. He just wouldn’t.

That is all.
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That’s not my point. How can Henderson say he’s missing the King George because he hasn’t come out the race well and then run him the next day over 2 miles. All I’m saying is if your not going to be honest don’t say anything at all. It’s just annoying
 
It’s clear Henderson has well and truly bottled it. I can’t help but think he’s making a huge mistake returning to 2m as I can’t see him getting near Chacun.
 
AnFiieLD. said:
It’s clear Henderson has well and truly bottled it. I can’t help but think he’s making a huge mistake returning to 2m as I can’t see him getting near Chacun.
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Altior makes the market for you, Go all in on chacun then If thats the way you feel, you should be happy.

Or you've backed chacun, and your scared of altior so you think it's a mistake as it potentially runs your bets.
 
AnFiieLD. said:
It’s clear Henderson has well and truly bottled it. I can’t help but think he’s making a huge mistake returning to 2m as I can’t see him getting near Chacun.
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Altior’s won more times at Cheltenham than Chacun’s had runs. I hope CPS wins but the suggestion Altior won’t get anyway near him is based on what exactly?
 
If Altior and Chacun both win this week it's going to properly solidify them as the two favs.

Agree with Scooby that if you dont fancy Altior then you can take him on either now or later with your selection.

Interesting if DDS lined up too and all three remained unbeaten, what a race - that would thin out the opposition.

Also agree that Hendo really looks to have slid past the truth by saying he's tired and will miss Kempton and then declared for Kempton in the 2-Miler.
 
In my opinion Altior has regressed and Chacun is a monster. As per Scooby’s message I would like Altior to run here so I can get a nicer price about Chacun, but if I was Henderson I’d be dodging this. I’m already on Chacun for a nice sum, nothing too wild given ante post and his history however
 
AnFiieLD. said:
In my opinion Altior has regressed and Chacun is a monster. As per Scooby’s message I would like Altior to run here so I can get a nicer price about Chacun, but if I was Henderson I’d be dodging this. I’m already on Chacun for a nice sum, nothing too wild given ante post and his history however
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Based on what?
 
The NRNB opening price on CPS will be very interesting.

I have a bit on at 25/1 but couldn’t imagine getting involved at single digits given his history. Would he really shorten much for a facile win and then NRNB given Altior will still be at the top of the market?
 
Scooby91 said:
Altior makes the market for you, Go all in on chacun then If thats the way you feel, you should be happy.

Or you've backed chacun, and your scared of altior so you think it's a mistake as it potentially runs your bets.
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Agree, take Altior out and Chacum is very short.
Assuming he takes his chance stick an order up to back Altior because he will hit a lazy spot and drift to a big price in running...
 
charlie said:
Based on what?
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1. Stable smashed him off the boards 6/4 into 4/9 on his Naas comeback after 1000 days off the track
2. Beat the JLT and Arkle winners with ease on only his second run over fences
3. Impressed schooling around Punchestown after racing a few weeks back
4. Walsh was asked if he’d miss riding one horse this season, who would it be? Chacun Pour Soi
 
AnFiieLD. said:
1. Stable smashed him off the boards 6/4 into 4/9 on his Naas comeback after 1000 days off the track
2. Beat the JLT and Arkle winners with ease on only his second run over fences
3. Impressed schooling around Punchestown after racing a few weeks back
4. Walsh was asked if he’d miss riding one horse this season, who would it be? Chacun Pour Soi
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1. A nothing beginners chase & Mullins/Ricci horses are often smashed into odds on.
2. Beat a JLT winner at the end of a long season, and a weak Arkle winner (to put it lightly).
3. Impressive schooling doesn't mean monster
4. Ruby gets it wrong all the time. He got off last years Gold Cup winner for example.
 
Take it you disagree then Charlie. We’ll see over Christmas and come March :)
 
AnFiieLD. said:
Take it you disagree then Charlie. We’ll see over Christmas and come March :)
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I hope with every fibre of my being you have called it and he does turn out to be a monster, I was just playing devils advocate that he isn't one, yet :)
 
Chancun has a hell of a lot to prove and is very fragile but clearly they think a lot of him so you have to go along with the hype. Will he be bullied by Altior at Cheltenham though......I think so
 
AnFiieLD. said:
Take it you disagree then Charlie. We’ll see over Christmas and come March :)
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You won't see over christmas , its always a nothing race. Just like laurina going into the CH last year, you'll find out on the day. There is an almighty gulf in class between the 2 races
 
Scooby91 said:
You won't see over christmas , its always a nothing race. Just laurina last year, you'll find out in the day. There is an almighty gulf in class between the 2 races
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Scooby's on his Xmas party....
 
Le Richebourg is entered on 31Dec at Punchestown in a 2MF4F Hurdle. Looks like he may be making it back to the racecourse this season.

Sizing John entered in the same race.
 
Hamptonfox said:
Le Richebourg is entered on 31Dec at Punchestown in a 2MF4F Hurdle. Looks like he may be making it back to the racecourse this season.

Sizing John entered in the same race.
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Kevin Blake said that on the FFP.

Hurdle prep just after Christmas for the DRF to set where he is. 2 mile race, obviously.
 
Altior NR tomorrow.. Abcess..
 
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