Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

[Viking Flagship]

Indeed !!. Hindsight's a wonderful thing . But It's done now . No going back.

BigChaang, do you mind if I ask what your average bet size is? (in terms of no. of points, not actual money). I'm just slightly baffled by a 60 point outlay and want to understand how this compares to one of your average bets. I've literally never had a 60 point bet in my life. I very very rarely stake more than 5pts. And if I started to frequently stake higher than that I would probably look to adjust my scale so that I could still comprehend it on a 1-5pt scale.

 

[BigChaang]

Singles - 2 points each way , unless i really fancy something , Multis - L 15 - 0.20 points each way.,
L 31 - 0.10 points each way,.
I think you can work it out now.

 

[boopa]

How many points is your bank?

 

[Viking Flagship]

Singles - 2 points each way , unless i really fancy something , Multis - L 15 - 0.20 points each way.,
L 31 - 0.10 points each way,.
I think you can work it out now.

Got it! In terms of proportions then it really is a hefty bet. All the best with it :encouragement:

 

[BigChaang]

Got it! In terms of proportions then it really is a hefty bet. All the best with it :encouragement:

Yes it is ! , But for what it's worth , I placed the Bet with the winnings of a previous bet ,
So for me that moneys gone , And if pp hacks up it's happy days. ( in my dreams until we see pp again ) :highly_amused:
Cheers V.F.

 

[archie]

Entries close on Monday with weights published 2 days later. Same for Ryanair and QM.

 

[Kevloaf]

BigChaang, do you mind if I ask what your average bet size is? (in terms of no. of points, not actual money). I'm just slightly baffled by a 60 point outlay and want to understand how this compares to one of your average bets. I've literally never had a 60 point bet in my life. I very very rarely stake more than 5pts. And if I started to frequently stake higher than that I would probably look to adjust my scale so that I could still comprehend it on a 1-5pt scale.

That's pretty much exactly the same for me, but 1-10 pt scale.

 

[thistlecracker]

Yes it is ! , But for what it's worth , I placed the Bet with the winnings of a previous bet ,
So for me that moneys gone , And if pp hacks up it's happy days. ( in my dreams until we see pp again ) :highly_amused:
Cheers V.F.

Good luck to you !

 

[Kevloaf]

For those who doubted my Elegant Escape shout ....Well this is the best article I've read in aaaaaaaages :highly_amused::highly_amused: (It's copy and pasted directly from from Willhill)

https://news.williamhill.com/horse-racing/elegant-escape-cheltenham-gold-cup-odds-shouldve-tumbled-like-kemboy-or-clan-des-obeaux/


The Christmas period saw the Cheltenham Gold Cup ante-post odds given an almighty shake up, with surprise winners of the King George and the Savills Chase (formerly the Lexus) both slashed in the betting for the Festival showpiece, but a third major festive scorer remains relatively unloved.
Having been introduced to the Gold Cup market at 16/1 in the wake of his silky smooth Boxing Day success, Kempton winner Clan Des Obeaux is now trading at just 13/2, while Kemboy was slashed into 8/1 from 33s after his Fairyhouse victory.
Unlike that pair, Elegant Escape is still as long as 25/1 for the 3m2f Festival highlight, despite taking out another recognised Gold Cup trial, the Welsh Grand National, in fine style.
Bet on the latest Cheltenham Gold Cup ante-post odds with William Hill

Elegant Escape on his way to victory at Chepstow Racecourse

Why Elegant Escape’s Welsh National win suggests he’s Cheltenham Gold Cup class

It may not have been overly hailed at the time, but Colin Tizzard’s seven-year-old put up one of the best weight-carrying performances the Chepstow marathon has seen for many moons to down the David-Pipe-trained Ramses De Teillee by a length and a quarter under 11st 8lbs.
Since Carvill’s Hill did so in 1991, only one horse has carried a heavier burden to victory in the race, subsequent Gold Cup winner Native River (11st 12lbs).
Meanwhile, only two other winners in that time shouldered more than 11st 3lbs, Synchronised and Master Oats, and, you guessed it, both went on to win Cheltenham’s championship for staying chasers.
It’s true that, of the trio of subsequent Gold Cup winners, only Master Oats won both races in the same campaign, with Synchronised and Native River landing the latter a season later.
But, at odds of 25/1 Elegant Escape’s each-way claims are obvious and all the more so given his trainer.
Elegant Escape following a familiar route to the Cheltenham Gold Cup

Ladbrokes Trophy/Welsh Grand National/Denman Chase/Gold Cup. Sound like a familiar itinerary?
It should if you’re a trainer named Tizzard, who steered Native River down precisely such as path in 2017, when the Brocade Racing gelding landed the odds in the first three races before taking a bronze medal at Cheltenham.
Elegant Escape is currently plotting a similar course, but while he only finished a 10-length second in the race formerly known as the Hennessy, he did so carrying fully 9lbs more than his illustrious stablemate, currently 5/1 in this year’s Gold Cup betting, had done when triumphant in 2016.
With owner JP Romans reportedly keen to target the Cheltenham race, it would be no great surprise to see Elegant Escape go straight to the Festival.
Native River was able to improve on his 2017 third to win the Gold Cup 2018 off the back of a one-race build up, compared to four runs the previous season.
As such it would seem logical that Tizzard should save his latest Welsh National winner for Cheltenham now, rather than attempt to fit in a run at Newbury in the interim.

 

[Scooby91]

For those who doubted my Elegant Escape shout ....Well this is the best article I've read in aaaaaaaages :highly_amused::highly_amused: (It's copy and pasted directly from from Willhill)

https://news.williamhill.com/horse-racing/elegant-escape-cheltenham-gold-cup-odds-shouldve-tumbled-like-kemboy-or-clan-des-obeaux/


The Christmas period saw the Cheltenham Gold Cup ante-post odds given an almighty shake up, with surprise winners of the King George and the Savills Chase (formerly the Lexus) both slashed in the betting for the Festival showpiece, but a third major festive scorer remains relatively unloved.
Having been introduced to the Gold Cup market at 16/1 in the wake of his silky smooth Boxing Day success, Kempton winner Clan Des Obeaux is now trading at just 13/2, while Kemboy was slashed into 8/1 from 33s after his Fairyhouse victory.
Unlike that pair, Elegant Escape is still as long as 25/1 for the 3m2f Festival highlight, despite taking out another recognised Gold Cup trial, the Welsh Grand National, in fine style.
Bet on the latest Cheltenham Gold Cup ante-post odds with William Hill

Elegant Escape on his way to victory at Chepstow Racecourse

Why Elegant Escape’s Welsh National win suggests he’s Cheltenham Gold Cup class

It may not have been overly hailed at the time, but Colin Tizzard’s seven-year-old put up one of the best weight-carrying performances the Chepstow marathon has seen for many moons to down the David-Pipe-trained Ramses De Teillee by a length and a quarter under 11st 8lbs.
Since Carvill’s Hill did so in 1991, only one horse has carried a heavier burden to victory in the race, subsequent Gold Cup winner Native River (11st 12lbs).
Meanwhile, only two other winners in that time shouldered more than 11st 3lbs, Synchronised and Master Oats, and, you guessed it, both went on to win Cheltenham’s championship for staying chasers.
It’s true that, of the trio of subsequent Gold Cup winners, only Master Oats won both races in the same campaign, with Synchronised and Native River landing the latter a season later.
But, at odds of 25/1 Elegant Escape’s each-way claims are obvious and all the more so given his trainer.
Elegant Escape following a familiar route to the Cheltenham Gold Cup

Ladbrokes Trophy/Welsh Grand National/Denman Chase/Gold Cup. Sound like a familiar itinerary?
It should if you’re a trainer named Tizzard, who steered Native River down precisely such as path in 2017, when the Brocade Racing gelding landed the odds in the first three races before taking a bronze medal at Cheltenham.
Elegant Escape is currently plotting a similar course, but while he only finished a 10-length second in the race formerly known as the Hennessy, he did so carrying fully 9lbs more than his illustrious stablemate, currently 5/1 in this year’s Gold Cup betting, had done when triumphant in 2016.
With owner JP Romans reportedly keen to target the Cheltenham race, it would be no great surprise to see Elegant Escape go straight to the Festival.
Native River was able to improve on his 2017 third to win the Gold Cup 2018 off the back of a one-race build up, compared to four runs the previous season.
As such it would seem logical that Tizzard should save his latest Welsh National winner for Cheltenham now, rather than attempt to fit in a run at Newbury in the interim.

Haven't even read it but he's no chance

unless the gold cup is switched to ffos lass over 6.2 miles. With a restriction on the Irish border.

 

[Kevloaf]

Haven't even read it but he's no chance

Presenting Percy
Al Boum Photo
Elegant Escape

The Gold Cup 1-2-3

and Monalee wins the Ryanair.


Easy.

 

[Scooby91]

Presenting Percy
Al Boum Photo
Elegant Escape

The Gold Cup 1-2-3

and Monalee wins the Ryanair.


Easy.

Where's he now? He's only won a single race that forms long gone.

Alboum photo is past them

 

[Kevloaf]

Where's he now? He's only won a single race that forms long gone.

Alboum photo is past them

Same place Cilaos Emery and Chante Neige are.

You should just remain mute on Presenting Percy. Plenty of other threads for you

 

[Scooby91]

Al boum photo and road to respect the best 2 gold cup horses IMO.

 

[Scooby91]

Same place Cilaos Emery and Chante Neige are.

You should just remain mute on Presenting Percy. Plenty of other threads for you

Why diddnt he go on after chelt. He's 1 good chase run. Got beat by our duke beforehand.

Alboum photo went on to win the fairyhouse gold cup, the champion 3m novice chase (bar Townend) And the savils chase .
On his next 3 runs.

He's done more. There's no argument there.

 

[Kevloaf]

Al boum photo and road to respect the best 2 gold cup horses IMO.

Presenting Percy and Al Boum Photo for me.

Although wouldn't back PP at his current price.

Current price if I had to pick one, it'd be ABP at 20's NRNB.

 

[Kevloaf]

Why diddnt he go on after chelt. He's 1 good chase run. Got beat by our duke beforehand.

Alboum photo went on to win the fairyhouse gold cup, the champion 3m novice chase (bar Townend) And the savils chase .
On his next 3 runs.

He's done more. There's no argument there.

I don't know, I Don't train or own him

but you can't seriously think Presenting Percy couldn't give Invitation Only a beating?

Sounds like you're getting Percy all kinds of wrong again though.

 

[boopa]

Road To Respect is a suspect stayer.

ABP and Bellshill my two.

 

[Scooby91]

Same place Cilaos Emery and Chante Neige are.

You should just remain mute on Presenting Percy. Plenty of other threads for you

They've not got the gold cup to run in. They could turn up on the day and win.

 

[Scooby91]

Road To Respect is a suspect stayer.

ABP and Bellshill my two.

Stays all day imo. You've been listening to the FFP