Ryanair 2019

[Kevloaf]

For me Min is an out and out 2 miler. Were it not for the beast that is Altior then Min would already have a supreme and champion chase under his belt, and (god forbid) if Altior missed Cheltenham, then Min would 100% go champion chase. If he ends up here, then I can see him being outstayed up the hill. Ruby often gives the impression that he's holding on to a hell of a lot more horse than he actually has under him, and I can see Min coming down the hill looking like an absolute good thing turning in, Ruby motionless, then gets outstayed.

Would an out and out two miler beat the JLT and Ryanair winner on his first run when they've both had a race to get fit?

Dangerous to pigeon hole Min as a two miler, his 2m4f form has a very solid look to it.

 

[Scooby91]

Would an out and out two miler beat the JLT and Ryanair winner on his first run when they've both had a race to get fit?

Dangerous to pigeon hole Min as a two miler, his 2m4f form has a very solid look to it.

Even the nose to politologue straighr after putting his all in against Altior, is top form. Look what he's done already this season.

 

[boopa]

Politlogue ran in the same race beat Min fair and square at Aintree. Look how Min travelled in the Champion Chase. It's best trip is 2 mile. I don't think you can contest that.

 

[jack1092]

His best trip in my eyes is probably two miles as he travels with a lot of zest and keenness. However, if there's anyone that can harness that is is WM and Ruby a la Un De Sceux. He was madder than Min was no doubt.

He's the best horse that'll run in the race on plain form + he'll be priced that way.....i do think that i'd happily take him on though given a stiff finish. Just depends what runs.

 

[Scooby91]

Politlogue ran in the same race beat Min fair and square at Aintree. Look how Min travelled in the Champion Chase. It's best trip is 2 mile. I don't think you can contest that.

He won by a nose. They're the 2 best horses likely to run in the Ryanair.

 

[Quevega]

On all known form and given the Altior scare off factor.
Min deserves to be clear favourite for this and the distance should not be an issue. Anyone already on has got great value as we stand.

But the likely make up and pace of the race on the day will be a factor as is always the case, unless you have an absolute stand out performer who has proven they can deal with anything (like Altior & BD).

Min hasn't quite got this status and the strong pace angle as a weakness for him has it's merit's. The Ryanair does get won by different types and I'm sure this has to do with the pace the races are run at on the day, and the wellbeing of the horse on the day obviously.

With Gigginstown as the likely main opposition in this race then I would expect they'd look to exploit this potential weakness.
But on the reverse of that - Mullins will probably run UDS also, and the opposition might just let him get on with it, meaning the race could be dictated by the pace he goes. Whether that's to suit Min or UDS ?? I've no idea if they'd think that much about it.

 

[boopa]

You said it was an aftethought for Min. The same applies to Politilogue. Politlogue will be better suited to a stiff 2m5.

 

[Scooby91]

You said it was an aftethought for Min. The same applies to Politilogue. Politlogue will be better suited to a stiff 2m5.

Politologue was always going on to Aintree in the 2 1/2. Yorkhill was the one going for mullins believe it or not but was pulled out lame last minute and they brought min in.

Whatever the way they went there. That's still top form I can't see the issue with him being beaten by a nose there.

 

[charlie]

I'll be suprised if he's bigger than 5/2 on the day. He's the leading contender no doubt. And is be almost certain he'll go here. They've put it out there from a very early date. They wanted to switch him or douvan last year but learned the ramications with vautour. This Time they've laid it out from early.

So if Altior got injured you think they would stick to their Ryanair plan?

 

[boopa]

There's still a bit of juice in Politlogue 14/1.

 

[Scooby91]

So if Altior got injured you think they would stick to their Ryanair plan?

Theyve footpad great field un de sceaux. And that's really clutching at straws.

And what cashback is for should that happen. But iv no reason to think Altior is going to get injured.

 

[Scooby91]

There's still a bit of juice in Politlogue 14/1.

Iv taken 20s already with them . But there certainly is imo .
Would They be dumb enough to push him out again after the king George? I'm not sure.

 

[delsie777]

So if Altior got injured you think they would stick to their Ryanair plan?

Don't forget they have Footpad for the QM. Ruby already arranging his eggs in the appropriate baskets!

 

[charlie]

Would an out and out two miler beat the JLT and Ryanair winner on his first run when they've both had a race to get fit?

Dangerous to pigeon hole Min as a two miler, his 2m4f form has a very solid look to it.

I massively respect Min and I'm not knocking his impressive return in the John Durkan, but 2m is his best trip and he will be vulnerable to others in the race over 2m5f at chelt IMO

 

[Scooby91]

I massively respect Min and I'm not knocking his impressive return in the John Durkan, but 2m is his best trip and he will be vulnerable to others in the race over 2m5f at chelt IMO

This is a common view with no evidence behind it . Who's the one to beat him? The ones your thinking are likely going for gold. And he's just beat her.
Or Balko des flos? Surely not

 

[charlie]

Don't forget they have Footpad for the QM. Ruby already arranging his eggs in the appropriate baskets!

Having spent the best part of 3 years staring at Altiors arse, I think Ricci would get his way and send Min CC. Given the plan with Footpad is to go up in trip, then were Altior to get injured I could see Footpad going here at 7 and then having a crack at the GC at 8.

 

[delsie777]

Having spent the best part of 3 years staring at Altiors arse, I think Ricci would get his way and send Min CC. Given the plan with Footpad is to go up in trip, then were Altior to get injured I could see Footpad going here at 7 and then having a crack at the GC at 8.

Ricci get his way?? That would be novel! Ruby calls it, man.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Politlogue will be better suited to a stiff 2m5.

Not serious, surely?

Cheltenham is one of, if not, the stiffest tracks around, check his record for the course.

Aside from his record, his own trainer has come out and said he feels he needs a 'flat' track to perform to his best, on more than one occasion.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

This is a common view with no evidence behind it . Who's the one to beat him? The ones your thinking are likely going for gold. And he's just beat her.
Or Balko des flos? Surely not

I don't think she'll go for Gold myself, and if she does I am happy to avoid her. She'll put it up to Min in the Ryanair though for sure.

I think it will be between Min, Monalee & Shattered Love.

 

[Can't Catch Me]

I find Politologue a very difficult horse to weigh up, myself.

He has some top class form, and considering he has 5 runs without a win at Cheltenham, I would normally rule him out immediately. But a couple of those have been fair enough to make me think twice. But he just doesn't appear to quite get up the hill at the end of a Championship race and I cant quite see that changing in a Ryanair.

If the race does cut up, and Footpad goes for the QMCC and the likes of Monalee and Shattered Love go for the GC, he could well sneak a place though.

And in that scenario I think Min would be very hard to oppose even though I also share the worry about him being outstayed. He would no doubt have class to win what would be a weak enough renewal.