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2023 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Wide open, unless the French horse goes for it it that is. I'd be all over him. Absolutely bolted up today.
    Dashel Drasher beat Voix Du Reve by a couple of lengths which is not good form at all.

    Marie's Rock beat him 6 lengths too.

    Worth possibly remembering that the winner and the 2nd were getting 6lbs from Paisley & Botox too.

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    • I love how today showed that even when a jockey knows a horse so well, he can still get it wrong.
      I kind of knew I was done when he was still on the bridle coming down the hill.
      Surely Coleman should have gone for him earlier and got him off the bridle, he would have kept going for longer then the others, by waiting all he was doing was allowing others with more speed to retain their finish. It was worth a try.
      Probably didn't matter anyway to be fair, as the French horse came out of nowhere, literally.
      And he probably wouldn't have gone much faster either, he needed a stronger gallop earlier on.

      8-1 NRNB looks fair. For the French horse (I'll never use it's name)

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      • Not even going to look any of the posts before me but I was there today and if the French horse wants to come across then he'll easily be good enough to beat the best of the English !

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        • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post

          The same was said of De Bon Couer and then Benie retired her on home soil
          They were both better than LAutonomie though. No shame in losing to Benie as Benie would have won the Stayers if aimed there.

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          • The French came into the winners enclosure looking like he had just ran a canter!

            Only 6, and just earned a CD next to his name.

            Out of the blue.... the stayers, what a mess of a race!

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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post
              Doubt the Irish are worried.
              Really?? I thought he was hugely impressive

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              • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                The French came into the winners enclosure looking like he had just ran a canter!

                Only 6, and just earned a CD next to his name.

                Out of the blue.... the stayers, what a mess of a race!
                He'll be a huge player if he comes over. Hope he does. Will give the race a lot more credit.

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                • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                  Doubt the Irish are worried.
                  Actually, thinking about it again, they'll be shitting themselves.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    He'll be a huge player if he comes over. Hope he does. Will give the race a lot more credit.
                    ….trainer said afterwards he’d be supplemented.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      He'll be a huge player if he comes over. Hope he does. Will give the race a lot more credit.
                      Absolute cluster fuck wasn't it, watching it I the pub having just placed a treble with Paisley first leg.

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                      • Hope he does run. Will make the race very, very interesting.

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                        • Dashel drasher is the British darasso

                          Always runs to that 150ish mark over hurdles a good yardstick to rate a race around

                          The french horse will need to improve again to contend in march

                          Travelled nicely today though

                          Maries rock beat DD with more authority carrying a penalty which maybe gives us an idea of the strength of the form




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                          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                            Dashel drasher is the British darasso

                            Always runs to that 150ish mark over hurdles a good yardstick to rate a race around

                            The french horse will need to improve again to contend in march

                            Travelled nicely today though

                            Maries rock beat DD with more authority carrying a penalty which maybe gives us an idea of the strength of the form



                            Fair assessment tbh, They've got to give the winner high 150s to tie it all together. They've gone very steady for the first couple of miles didn't get racing until 7f out really prob why PP travelled unusually smoothly for too long. Nothing has had to prove stamina there today imo, trouble is come March if FP isn't in it your looking at a horse like Dashel to potentially set the pace again. This race really needs a pace angle or rife to get messy(as if it isn't already).

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                            • "In my mind I thought he could run well – and he did. It's expensive to supplement him for the Stayers' Hurdle and we are not rich, but I will talk with the owner and we'll see. If it's possible we will go and it would be a dream to come here in March."

                              Gabriel Leenders - trainer, Gold tweet

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                              • ….Simon Rowlands making his case for Teahupoo;

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