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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2020

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  • Originally posted by quevega View Post
    listed hurdle after tomorrow's race ?
    Yes indeed. They took the same route with Native River.

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    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
      He’s due to run in a listed hurdle at Exeter over 2m next and then Cheltenham. Given his debut performance I’d be surprised if that resulted in a step up and a gruelling race in the AB. They’ll have one eye on next season and rightly so. He’s top of my novice chase shortlist already.
      Jackie ?
      Do you really buy the gruelling race thing ?
      Running one race over half a mile further, before 6 months rest ?
      Fair enough if they're thinking championship novice races at Aintree and Punchestown, but if they think it's more for the next season then let it have a jog round in the bartlett. It's much more of a race for the ones for next year I reckon. They can always pull up if they get tired.

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      • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
        Yes indeed. They took the same route with Native River.
        Ended up in bartlett though didn't he ?

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        • To be fair.
          Whether you buy it or not.
          The Tizzards don't anyway.

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          • If they think he's a classy horse with any degree of speed they'll not be firing him in an AB. Sounds like he's a bit of a unit in size as well.

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            • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
              If they think he's a classy horse with any degree of speed they'll not be firing him in an AB. Sounds like he's a bit of a unit in size as well.
              Yep. I agree.
              Not sure he is that type though.
              whatever distance they run him at in next few months.

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              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                Ended up in bartlett though didn't he ?
                Yes. I mentioned that a few pages back. But this horse is different in my opinion and has the speed for the Ballymore.

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                • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                  If they think he's a classy horse with any degree of speed they'll not be firing him in an AB. Sounds like he's a bit of a unit in size as well.
                  He’s a big gorgeous thing but very athletic. He may end up over staying distances next season but his class can make him competitive over shorter this season. He’s a half brother to Kildisart and he ran over middle distances as a novice hurdler too.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                    Yes. I mentioned that a few pages back. But this horse is different in my opinion and has the speed for the Ballymore.
                    Looks a big dope to me.

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                    • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                      Looks a big dope to me.
                      Put that crack pipe down

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                      • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                        listed hurdle after tomorrow's race ?
                        it's only a class 4 tomorrow Q

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                        • Originally posted by Pendil View Post
                          it's only a class 4 tomorrow Q
                          I was questioning how Jackie knew the route plan before the result tomorrow. (i understand now)
                          Not the class progression of the horse .

                          Not sure tizzards do maps myself.
                          Although they may have asked Jackie for directions.
                          I suppose tractors don't have to stick to traditional routes either.

                          If he wins nicely tomorrow I could see them going to trials day for the neptune trial, getting beat in that then going bartlett. Not sure about the exeter race myself.

                          But we shall see.

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                          • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                            I was questioning how Jackie knew the route plan before the result tomorrow. (i understand now)
                            Not the class progression of the horse .

                            Not sure tizzards do maps myself.
                            Although they may have asked Jackie for directions.
                            I suppose tractors don't have to stick to traditional routes either.

                            If he wins nicely tomorrow I could see them going to trials day for the neptune trial, getting beat in that then going bartlett. Not sure about the exeter race myself.

                            But we shall see.
                            Tizzard added: “There are plenty of options for him after his next run. He could go to the Listed race at Exeter that Native River and Vision Des Flos won back over two miles and that wouldn’t hinder him.
                            “That could be a nice option before Cheltenham. We are just minding him a bit as he is a big four-year-old. We will let him grow and take our time with him.”

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                            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                              Tizzard added: “There are plenty of options for him after his next run. He could go to the Listed race at Exeter that Native River and Vision Des Flos won back over two miles and that wouldn’t hinder him.
                              “That could be a nice option before Cheltenham. We are just minding him a bit as he is a big four-year-old. We will let him grow and take our time with him.”
                              Found it & seen it.
                              But I'll believe it when i see it.
                              Think native river went trials day and fell over , and exeter was an afterthought.
                              Agree with you anyhow, in that I don't think he'll be a winner at cheltenham, and chasing will be when he's probably better.

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                              • Really hope the big breakaway wins well today. I do think he will.

                                Thought his debut was really really good and he could be anything given he’s only a 4 year old.

                                Think it was one of the best novice performances we have seen to date, the way he travelled and quickened away.

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