Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

[Kevloaf]

Not as informative as it could have been. Looked like they slowed down a lot mid race then sprinted.

Should be inforative enough for people to realise being that close to Andy Dufrense means you aren't going to be good enough on your 3rd start.

[Kevloaf]

Aye. Mt Leinster doing nothing for the AF form either

Jason The Militant was 89l behind Asterion Forlonge


I make Asterion Forlonge a 200+ horse based on that.

[Quevega]

Should be inforative enough for people to realise being that close to Andy Dufrense means you aren't going to be good enough on your 3rd start.

You'd have to agree.
Although I thought that race they both ran each other close in was stronger run than today.

[Brooksie]

they slowed it right down from the bend down the back straight to the turn in. Andy Dufrense wasn't going to be winning any sprints, he's a future gold cup horse. Great ride from the winner. Walsh should have taken it up a long way out.

[charlie]

Jason The Militant was 89l behind Asterion Forlonge

I make Asterion Forlonge a 200+ horse based on that.

I didn’t realise the winner had lost to AF

210 Kev, 210

[Kevloaf]

I'm hoping that Mt Leinster can frank the Asterion Forlonge form tomorrow. If he flops and Andy Dufresne wins easily, AF will drift and Captain Guinness will shorten heavily. I think I'll back the Captain with B365 just in case.

Certainly didn't frank the form. The winner did though if you want to read it that way (AF beat Jason 89l)

Captain Guinness should be drifting based on that too in my opinion, BUT, that isn't how it works.

Captain Guinness is a worse 14/1 show now, compared to this morning....

I think he was a poor 14/1 shot this morning though too.

I'd back him at 25/1, for those who care

[TCH29]

I’m just not sure the form the AF form or the DRF 2m Novice Hurdle is that good.

Abacadabras has the best Irish form for me. Comfortably.

[Splinterboy82]

Shishkin is seriously short now - 5/2 best price!

I note CH into single figures now on the machine with SJ out to 30/1+ ....fingers crossed (as CH is in all my ew multiples for supreme) that means JP has made the correct call

[TJW1990]

Envoi Allen now 7.6 on Betfair for this??

[DenmanSacre]

Shishkin is seriously short now - 5/2 best price!

I note CH into single figures now on the machine with SJ out to 30/1+ ....fingers crossed (as CH is in all my ew multiples for supreme) that means JP has made the correct call

Vibes from the Henderson camp and the really poor time figures would put me off a single figure price for this. Not sure why they haven't put CH in a decent race this year - who was the last Supreme winner to not run in a graded race in the same season?

[AnFiieLD.]

Envoi Allen now 7.6 on Betfair for this??

Plunged in price. Any news?

[Istabraq]

Plunged in price. Any news?

Still 2.74/2.78 for the Ballymore, false gamble ?

[Faugheen_Machine]

Still 2.74/2.78 for the Ballymore, false gamble ?

Yep. Not sure anything will have changed and plenty of these false gambles/drifts will be happening over the next couple of weeks.

[TJW1990]

Still 2.74/2.78 for the Ballymore, false gamble ?

Hope that's all it is... He was trading at 22.0 two days ago so that's some plunge

[Faugheen_Machine]

Hope that's all it is... He was trading at 22.0 two days ago so that's some plunge

Ii looks like it took a total of about £150 - £200 to drop the price. Whoever started it will no doubt be hoping to lay back at single figures.