Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

[charlie]

exactly, which is why he should be going up in trip,
he outstayed Lostintranslation in the JLT
He was only just stretching out today at the finish.
They're just pot hunting at 2 miles (which is understandable)

His turn of foot won him that race

[JackieMoon33]

exactly, which is why he should be going up in trip,
he outstayed Lostintranslation in the JLT.
He was only just stretching out today at the finish.
They're just pot hunting at 2 miles (which is understandable)

Outstayed Lostintranslation? I would have said he beat him with a turn of foot that LIT didn’t have. LIT went on to prove he needed further and required a greater test of stamina than 2m4f

[Lobos]

Defi will not be running here unless it comes up like a bog.

[charlie]

Defi will not be running here unless it comes up like a bog.

Thanks Philip

[Scooby91]

Thanks Philip

Tbf I think the likes of nicky and Philip get told where to go with JP horses, , so maybe hes got frankly tightlips in his pocket.

[TigerRolllllll]

Thanks Philip

Am not sure, think he is going for Tingle Creek....and Champion obviously the most glamorous target.....he was great today

[Quevega]

Outstayed Lostintranslation? I would have said he beat him with a turn of foot that LIT didn’t have. LIT went on to prove he needed further and required a greater test of stamina than 2m4f

He'd do him for a turn of foot over 3 miles also.
If you can finish like that over 2m 4f at that pace, you can stay alright enough. Outstayed means he could maintain the gallop more than his opponents, and they were slowing down. The sectionals show this.

[JackieMoon33]

He'd do him for a turn of foot over 3 miles also.
If you can finish like that over 2m 4f at that pace, you can stay alright enough. Outstayed means he could maintain the gallop more than his opponents, and they were slowing down. The sectionals show this.

You’d take DDS over LIT at 3 miles too?

[Quevega]

You’d take DDS over LIT at 3 miles too?

all day long.
Just a better horse.
and only a bit further.
pretty sure DDS wouldn't cut out at 2m 4f. and his careful jumping would not be so much of an issue. Think this may cosy him at 2 miles against a better horse/quicker jumper.

[Quevega]

Unfortunatley I don't think we'll get to find out this season at least.
Doubt they'll try King George now, unless they school round in a tingle creek cos the opposition is weak.

[luisgarciaisgod]

DDS beat LIT twice over 20f but got beaten by him over 21f. Ryanair trip is the limit for DDS imo

[JackieMoon33]

Unfortunatley I don't think we'll get to find out this season at least.
Doubt they'll try King George now, unless they school round in a tingle creek cos the opposition is weak.

Yeah it seems unlikely now after the weekend. I'd give DDS a squeak versus LIT over 3m at Kempton but if they'd both run in the RSA last season, LIT would have won every time for me.

[ComplyOrDie]

DDS isn't a 2 miler anymore, neither is Politologue, whom he beat at the weekend.

That fairly sums it up, right!

[Quevega]

DDS beat LIT twice over 20f but got beaten him over 21f. Ryanair trip is the limit for DDS imo

Yep, he goes past 2m 4f and thinks fuck that.
Class is class.
different days, different rides and all that, they're not machines, but DDS is the better horse overall

[Quevega]

Yeah it seems unlikely now after the weekend. I'd give DDS a squeak versus LIT over 3m at Kempton but if they'd both run in the RSA last season, LIT would have won every time for me.

possibly, would depend on ground and pace and jumping as they're quite closely matched.
But there is no evidence to suggest DDS could not stay just as well.
He's not had the chance.
Unless you believe the evidence luisgarcia put forward.