Champion Hurdle 2020

[Lobos]

NO

Why ?

From a betting perspective , after winning the Irish Churdle, would Honey not then be a certainty for the Mares? If not, why would anyone expect her to go on and win the English Churdle?

[Lobos]

Really want Honey to come here and BDD give us all something to enjoy

Oh and make a few quid in the process

Obviously mean the Mares

Certainly agree with that. Would be a good match up.

[Saxon Warrior]

From a betting perspective , after winning the Irish Churdle, would Honey not then be a certainty for the Mares? If not, why would anyone expect her to go on and win the English Churdle?

Because she already has a better RPR than all of the English horses, including Epatante.
If she then beat all of the Irish horses as well (except Apples Jade) who all have a worse RPR than her, then who is going to be favourite to stop her?

[Humble Pie]

From a betting perspective , after winning the Irish Churdle, would Honey not then be a certainty for the Mares? If not, why would anyone expect her to go on and win the English Churdle?

This is where we disagree

For me irrespective of Irish Churdle result she still doesn’t beat BDD in the Mares

[Saxon Warrior]

This is where we disagree

For me irrespective of Irish Churdle result she still doesn’t beat BDD in the Mares

Yep, we agree to disagree. She has just stepped into a first year in proper full on Grade 1 races, and she already has a better Irish rating than BDD who is three years older.

[Humble Pie]

Yep, we agree to disagree. She has just stepped into a first year in proper full on Grade 1 races, and she already has a better Irish rating than BDD who is three years older.

Congrats on your pro licence , mind you being sent by Kev to Greatrex wasn’t the best

Would be a very boring forum if we all agreed

[Lobos]

Because she already has a better RPR than all of the English horses, including Epatante.
If she then beat all of the Irish horses as well (except Apples Jade) who all have a worse RPR than her, then who is going to be favourite to stop her?

An RPR gained over 2 1/2 miles though, not 2. Anyway, enough of bloody Honey. She's getting on my tits now !

[Saxon Warrior]

An RPR gained over 2 1/2 miles though, not 2. Anyway, enough of bloody Honey. She's getting on my tits now !

We don’t want to think of Honey on your tits at this t8me of night. I better sign off and go back into the real world.

[Saxon Warrior]

Congrats on your pro licence , mind you being sent by Kev to Greatrex wasn’t the best

Would be a very boring forum if we all agreed

I’m not liking being Greatrex’s jockey

[Humble Pie]

I’m not liking being Greatrex’s jockey

Reckon Kevlaaa owes you an apology

[Craigy14]

If Honeysuckle wins well in the Irish Champion this has to come under serious consideration, which is sort of what HdB has said in his interview.

He has to stick to the mares opinion at present as she hasn’t ran in the Irish Champion yet. If the above happens 100% imo the balance of 95% mares will drop significantly.

As has been mentioned she will have beaten the best of the Irish (don’t see the English challenge greater) with the exception being Saldier. If she shows the speed for 2m and we all know she has stamina, 2m champion hurdle could be right up her street at Cheltenham.

[Ray]

Lets hope she can go the other way round

[Lobos]

Lets hope she can go the other way round

Absolutely. She could well bomb in Irish Churdle and miss Cheltenham altogether. Now that would be a gutter !

[Faugheen_Machine]

As ridiculous as it sounds, winning the Champion this season could be an easier task than winning the Mares.

They'd be daft not to run Honeysuckle in the Champion if she proves her worth at the DRF.

[jack1092]

From a betting perspective , after winning the Irish Churdle, would Honey not then be a certainty for the Mares? If not, why would anyone expect her to go on and win the English Churdle?

No, it's a poor looking 2mile division. Benie has actually only raced twice more in Ireland/England than Honey. She's very lightly raced and we still don't know her ceiling IMO.

An RPR gained over 2 1/2 miles though, not 2. Anyway, enough of bloody Honey. She's getting on my tits now !

Exactly Lobos, not at 2mile, where's the evidence she wouldn't perform very well at 2. I don't get why your so certain on this and that if anything needs 3mile.