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Cheltenham Festival Preview Nights 2019

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  • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post
    My notes from last night

    Cheltenham Preview Night – Haydock Park (4th March)

    Panel

    Gareth Leonard (GL) (Compare)
    Gay Wiltshire (GW)
    Martin Chapman (MC)
    Carl Llewelyn (CL)
    Andy Gibson (AG)

    Day 1 - Tuesday

    Supreme Novices Hurdle

    CL: - Really likes Al Dancer (obviously he is assistant trainer to NTD). Pulled hard last time out but a fast pace will suit and he will settle better. He has natural speed and will fully see out the trip, however he does wear a hood as he can get excited during the prelims. He also feels Dai will run AD & Angels Breath here. AD is much more straightforward horse than Ballyandy was.
    MC: - AD is a decent price and worthy favourite. Nothing has won Betfair Hurdle and the Supreme is a minor negative. Elixir De Nutz will front run and probably set it up for others. Small word for Grand Sancy.
    AG: - The time of Al Dancer’s November run is much better than the time that EDN set. Has backed AD and also Fakir Doudairies at an EW price. Prefers the prep of AD than that of AB.
    GW: - Cannot see AD being beaten.

    Arkle
    AG: - Has backed Kalashnikov but it is looking a poor bet now and he has made a mess of the race. Barry Geraghty is fairly confident that Defi Du Seuil will go for the JLT. A lot of front runners in this race.
    GL: - Likes Us and Them.
    MC: - Also likes Us and Them EW. Bit of EW money has come for Paloma Blue. Keen to take on Lalor, put off by his lack of runs.
    GW: - Thinks Knockanauss can run well from the front and a good EW price.
    CL: - Fancies Glen Forsa, Doesn’t like Lalor or Kalashnikov.

    Champion Hurdle
    GW: - Reckons Buveur Dair & Apples Jade will go off joint favourites about 2/1, always does his b*llocks on this race.
    MC: - Can’t have Laurina, really not sure who will win though.
    CL: - BD is beatable but again not sure who will win, tentative for Apples Jade.
    AG: - Laurina’s Tolworth win was slow, in fact the time set by Monsieur Le Coz on same day was quicker. AJ’s times also not that impressive but does have a squeak. BD is now a very backable price and has done a large EW double with Paisley Park (Stayers). Silver Streak (EW) could surprise and run on for a place.

    Other races on Day 1

    GL mentioned a few of NTD’s other horses and when he got to Ballyarthur, CL said with a straight face he definitely won’t be winning as he’s dead
    CL: - Says Go Conquer is still improving but wants him to go to the National. Cogry has every chance in the Ultima and Flying Angel hasn’t progressed as much as they would have liked.
    GW: - Likes Cogry EW in the Ultima
    MC: - Says Star Sports have laid decent bets on Mr Whitaker (Ultima), Ok Corral (4 miler) and BDD (Mares).
    AG: - Says Jerrysback has EW chance in the Ultima. Really likes Highway One O One in the Close Bros and he will front run.

    Day 2 – Wednesday

    Ballymore

    MC: - Champ pulls hard, would lay him. No Challow winner has won this in 16 attempts. Choice is Brewinupastorm
    AG: - On Champ at 10s. Barry Geraghty also likes Champ but said Battleoverdoyen was the one to be on.
    CL: - Reckons Champs name is a tip in itself as they were waiting for this horse. Does need to settle but faster pace will help.

    RSA
    CL: - Count Meribel in good form and could have an EW chance, good jumper.
    AG: - Thinks Delta Work is a more than reliable favourite, likes his prep. Says Santini been wrong favourite all along. Backed Mortal EW at 33s, will forgive last run.
    GL: - Likes Delta Work
    MC: - Santini issue is a concern, Delta Work now the right favourite. Topofthegame interesting, Harry Cobden got a b*llocking for the ride when he lost to La Bague Au Roi at Xmas.
    GW: - Delta Work

    Champion Chase
    MC: - Altior went bigger in running last year when he hit his flat spot, may be worth keeping an eye out. No idea why he was jumping to left LTO, maybe he was bored. Gods Own without the favourite may be a nice bet.
    AG: - Hell’s Kitchen EW if he runs, his time last time out was phenomenal.

    Other races on Day 2

    CL: - Torpillo wants it soft, Mr Antolini not progressive enough. Ballyandy is well and could have a chance EW. Owners has messed up Ballymoys chance by insisting on him running too often. Needs more time between races.
    MC: - Money for Friend or Foe in the Boodles and Get in the Queue in the Bumper. Put King Roland in your tracker.
    GW: - Money has come for Blue Sari
    AG: - Tony Martins charity bet is Hannon on the Boodles, Take note.

    Thursday – Day 3

    JLT

    AG: - Backed Lostintranslation and is a strong contender, Defi has a decent chance. No others in it.
    GL: - Likes Castafiore EW
    MC: - Plenty of money for Real Steel, Daryl Jacob likes Kildistart but MC thinks his jumping is scruffy.
    CL: - DDS is the class horse and better value than LIT. Mullins thinks a lot of Real Steel.
    GW: - Got to be LIT or DDS, can’t decide.

    Ryanair

    CL: - Not a great race, hopes UDS goes here. No strong views in an open race.
    GL: - NAP is Footpad
    GL: - Not sure who will even run.
    MC: - Frodon still may come here, has backed Shattered Love & Aso EW at big prices.
    AG: - Best to back Top Notch or Fox Norton EW now as once others drop out these would be value. Monalee is a placepot banker.

    Stayers

    CL: - It was the owners who kept Bristol De Mai in this, will definitely go Gold Cup though. Paisley Park is solid. Wholestone is very unpredictable but should run well at an EW price, his record here is good.
    GW: - Would lay PP, thinks it will drift on the day.
    MC: - If Penhill was fit he would have been well backed on day. Not really sure who can beat PP. Would like to lay him but can’t.
    AG: - Would be gutted if Faugheen won. Has PP in a big double with BD, will be in the first 3 most definitely. Interest in Wholestone without favourite, great track record and ran on inside LTO here which was the wrong place to be so draw a line through that.

    Other races on Day 3

    CL: - Ballyboley probably will be retired, Ballyhill a chance in one of the handicaps Crievehill needs it heavy. Splash of Ginge will run his race. Wants to run Arthurs Gift in the Midlands Grand National but owners want Cheltenham.
    MC: - Word for Posh Trish in the Mares Novice, no decent money taken on any of the handicaps.
    AG: - Barry Geraghty was asked at another preview his handicap horse for the week, he said Sire Du Berlais. Measureofmydreams is said to have a very good chance in the KM, good word for this. Backed Ballyhill for the Browns. Young Master a chance in the KM. Also likes Lust for Glory in the Mares Novice.

    Friday – Day 4

    Gold Cup

    MC: - Prep bad for Presenting Percy and would take on. But no strong opinion with who.
    GW: - Rather be on Native River than PP, EW to nothing.
    AG: - Concerned about PP with no fences run, race will be run at a gallop and just one mistake can put you out of the race. If soft, Native River is placepot banker. If Good to Soft or better then Road to Respect will run well. Likes Elegant Escape, he is a big old boat and can run on into a place. Clan Des Obeaux does have a chance but a poor record here. Bellshill form is good, times are very good and compare it to one of LBAR’s runs from the 4th fence to the line (LTO).
    GL: - Backed BDM at 33/1, thinks it’s his year.
    CL: - BDM is a big price and does have some form here. NR is the value, proper stayed, very solid EW. Not really put off by PP’s prep but RSA horses tend to disappoint the following year. Also thinks EE can run into a place.

    Other races on Day 4

    GW: - Sir Erec lay of the day.
    MC: - Think SE will go off odds on but would want to lay him. Been money for Ucello Conti in the Foxhunters.
    CL: - Torpillo wants soft if goes in Triumph, thinks Quel Destin had his ground last time and why he hammered Torpillo.
    AG: - Also against SE but he may well win, he would rather Tiger Tap Tap though at the prices... Has backed Lisnagar Oscar in the Albert Bartlett, proper contender who has good times. Also had a large bet on Birchdale for same race at 10s. Backed Western Ryder in the County.

    NAPS

    AG: - Benie (Win) and EW’s on Western Ryder and Highway One o One
    CL: - Tiger Roll (Buying Money)
    GL: - Footpad
    MC: - Real Steel
    GW: - Lay Paisley Park

    Also noted to back Malaya in the Imperial Cup on Saturday and Muckle Row at Warwick if he goes.

    CL also said he had stopped betting since he stopped riding (joking!!)

    And keep an eye on Good Boy Bobby when he goes fresh and BDM when he turns up in the National as it will suit (and he should know!!)
    Thanks jon...good effort.

    This shouldn't be lost

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    • Originally posted by mayo View Post
      @racingbreaks had stuff on Twitter from Dickie and Mick Fitz
      Our Cheltenham Preview is about to kick off in 5 minutes! Standby for some highlights from our panel:
      🎤Richard Johnson
      🎤Mick Fitzgerald
      🎤Bill Esdaile
      🎤Luke Tarr
      Richard Johnson on his fall the other day: "Hopefully be back Friday and ready to go fully fit next week for Cheltenham" Great news from @dickyjohnson77 #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Panels picks for the Supreme Novices Hurdle: Mick Fitz - Mister Fisher Richard Johnson - Al Dancer or Thomas Darby E/W Luke Tarr - happy to lay Al Dancer, can make a case for Elixir de Nutz #RacingBreaksPreviewEvening #CheltenhamFestival

      Panels picks for Arkle: Mick Fitz - Huge fan of Lalor, but price is too short Richard Johnson - rides Lalor, wouldn't swap for anyone in the race BUT Glen Forsa is a danger Luke Tarr - Glen Forsa, best jumper in the field #RacingBreaksPreviewEvening #CheltenhamFestival

      Panel on Champion Hurdle: Mick Fitz - Huge BVD fan, rain coming will suit him. AJ doesn't look like a Champion Hurdler but Ruby wants to ride her 👀Dicky Johnson - BVD, hard to knock after winning two before, but if had to choose it would be AJ #RacingBreaksPreviewEvening

      Other races on Tuesday: Mares Hurdle Mick - Limini a real player, wouldn't be the first time a Mullins second string has won Challenge Cup Dicky - Atlanta Ablaze, won a listed race at Wincanton LTO by 15l beating Molly Childers #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Panel on Ballymore: Mick Fitz - worried about Champ handling occasion, may get found out at Chelts. Battleoverdoyen worthy contender after run at Naas RJ - Rides Brewin 'upastorm, one of his best rides of the week, BUT Champ deserving favourite #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      RSA: Mick - worried about Santini injury scare, Henderson reported still lame this morning. Loves Topofthegame, narrowly beaten in Coral Cup last year. Dicky - no ride, but amazed Ok Corral should be running in the race, rates Topofthegame too #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview
      C
      hampion Chase: Mick - asked will Altior get beat, answer "no", he is the best horse in training...he is an aeroplane! Dicky - if you could ask to ride another horse at The Festival, Altior would be the one. Bill - fancies Min to turn him over #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Other races on Wednesday: Boodles: Mick - Band of Outlaws Bumper Luke - Nicholls hasn't had many in this race before, so likes Ask for Glory for this reason #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview
      JLT Novices Chase: Mick - loves Defi, couldn't believe when he got beat at Cheltenham Dicky - thinks its a 2 horse race.
      If good ground then LostinTranslation is the one he wants to ride. If it rains Defi du Seuil would be preference. #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Ryanair: Mick - this trip is made for Monalee, Top Notch at 12/1 is one to look out for if it runs. Dicky - be brave to back Footpad after his year. Fancies Frodon for Paul Nicholls Bill - Monalee is a confident selection for him #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Stayers: Dicky - on this years form I would say Paisley Park, Cleave Hurdle win was impressive! Don't right off Faugheen if he turns up. Mick - trouble with Paisley, pulled up in last years Albert Bartlett, likes the form but not the price #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Pertemps Dicky - Samburu Shujaa is his best chance in the handicaps of the whole week, improving horse, loves a bit of cut in the ground Mick - NotWhatIAm, hes a bit keen but if he relaxed he has a great chance. First Assignment is a STAR. #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Mares Novice Mick - Honeysuckle for Henry de Bromhead is fancied by stable Dicky - worried that the fav Epitante won't settle and handle The Festival. Will take a lot from Barry to get a result #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview
      Panel on JCB: Dicky - if Irish have a good week Sir Eric is one to follow Mick - Sir Eric won a 20 runner race at Leopardstown first time, thinks he will win Luke (@StarSports_Bet) - happy to take money on the fav, young horses do get beat! #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview
      Albert Bartlett: Dicky - will ride Stoney Mountain if it runs, needs the rain. E/W bet Mick - Dickie Diver won nicely last time out - Dicky doesn't think he's done enough this year Luke - Don't be put off by anything, regardless of price #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Dicky Johnson on the Gold Cup: Native River seems in good form and happy with him. Ran well at Haydock at a sharp track. Cheltenham suits him better than anywhere, left handed a plus! Clan De Obeaux best improved horse in England this year! 👀#RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Dicky Johnson on his Cheltenham hopes: My best rides of the week are Lalor and Native River! Native River - the more rain the better... #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      And that's a wrap! Thank you to the 300 people that have joined us this evening at @mrestaurants_ this evening in Central London! BRING ON CHELTENHAM! #RacingBreaksCheltenhamPreview

      Just a quick re-cap on our panels best bets of the week:
      Mick - Defi du Seuil in the JLT - Sir Eric in the Triumph
      Dicky - Native River in GC - Lalor in the Arkle - Samburu Shujaa in Pertemps
      Esdaile - Cartwright EW in the Martin Pipe
      Luke (best lays) - Laurina & Monalee

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      • Philip Hobbs in @RPWeekender:

        Jerrysback - Ultima
        Crooks Peak, Gumball & Sternrunbin - County Hurdle
        Ozzie The Oscar - Grand Annual
        Springtown Lake - Close Brothers/Brown Advisory
        Wait For Me - Pertemps
        Zafar - Fred Winter
        Thyme Hill - Champion Bumper
        No Comment - Kim Muir
        I’m A Game Changer - Coral Cup/County Hurdle/Martin Pipe
        Rolling Dylan - Ultima/Kim Muir (preference)
        Who’s My Jockey - Martin Pipe (see how he is)

        The JLT is still the most likely target for Defi Du Seuil.

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          • Really don't get how a lot of people are slamming Paisley Park on the preview nights, saying he's the lay of the week and such. They keep pointing to the form saying he only beat West Approach who is average, tbf he smashed West Approach in the Cleeve by 12 lengths giving him 6lbs. Yes it wasn't the greatest renewal but he also smashed the likes of Black Op and Wholestone who some would argue could potentially contend for a place. Watching the race back too PP was visually impressive, powering away up the hill in dominant fashion. We keep hearing about other contenders such as Bacardys, Bapaume, Faugheen, Supasundae and Kilbricken Storm. But where is the form this season that gives people the confidence that these horses will beat Paisley Park. I like Kilbricken Storm but he's coming back from injury and Faugheen is an 11 year old coming back from a heavy fall, and these are PP's biggest dangers potentially. Yes PP may well not win but there's hardly enough to be saying he's the biggest lay of the week.
            In contrast on the same shows the general consensus is that Sir Erec is a banker. I like Sir Erec and do believe he could potentially win comfortably, however i think there are more flaws in his form than Paisley Park. Firstly Sir Erec is very inexperienced over hurdles, having just two runs. The first run he beat Tiger Tap Tap by a neck and TTT looked to be finishing marginally the better at the line. The second race I think suited Sir Erec's flat speed and he quickened away well to scoot away from the pack. On a stiff track like Cheltenham, running at a much faster clip could that turn of pace be run out of Sir Erec? Could his jumping inexperience result in an error when the pressure is on?
            My general point is I don't understand how a 12l beating of West Approach giving 6lbs and a 6l beating of Gardens of Babylon and Surin is causing people to call one horse a banker and one horse lay of the week.

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            • Welcome Samuel P

              It is a game of opinions but amazing how much group think comes into play. Previews almost universally against Champ and Paisley Park and for Sir Erec.

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              • Paisley is solid but he was flattered by the pace collapse in the Cleeve. As you say there's not much you can confidently take him on with.

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                • Originally posted by SamuelP View Post
                  Really don't get how a lot of people are slamming Paisley Park on the preview nights, saying he's the lay of the week and such. They keep pointing to the form saying he only beat West Approach who is average, tbf he smashed West Approach in the Cleeve by 12 lengths giving him 6lbs. Yes it wasn't the greatest renewal but he also smashed the likes of Black Op and Wholestone who some would argue could potentially contend for a place. Watching the race back too PP was visually impressive, powering away up the hill in dominant fashion. We keep hearing about other contenders such as Bacardys, Bapaume, Faugheen, Supasundae and Kilbricken Storm. But where is the form this season that gives people the confidence that these horses will beat Paisley Park. I like Kilbricken Storm but he's coming back from injury and Faugheen is an 11 year old coming back from a heavy fall, and these are PP's biggest dangers potentially. Yes PP may well not win but there's hardly enough to be saying he's the biggest lay of the week.
                  In contrast on the same shows the general consensus is that Sir Erec is a banker. I like Sir Erec and do believe he could potentially win comfortably, however i think there are more flaws in his form than Paisley Park. Firstly Sir Erec is very inexperienced over hurdles, having just two runs. The first run he beat Tiger Tap Tap by a neck and TTT looked to be finishing marginally the better at the line. The second race I think suited Sir Erec's flat speed and he quickened away well to scoot away from the pack. On a stiff track like Cheltenham, running at a much faster clip could that turn of pace be run out of Sir Erec? Could his jumping inexperience result in an error when the pressure is on?
                  My general point is I don't understand how a 12l beating of West Approach giving 6lbs and a 6l beating of Gardens of Babylon and Surin is causing people to call one horse a banker and one horse lay of the week.
                  Preview nights are not hosted by bookmakers to try and make punters money. . I'd take them all with a pinch of salt and follow what you personally think.
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                  • Originally posted by SamuelP View Post
                    Really don't get how a lot of people are slamming Paisley Park on the preview nights, saying he's the lay of the week and such. They keep pointing to the form saying he only beat West Approach who is average, tbf he smashed West Approach in the Cleeve by 12 lengths giving him 6lbs. Yes it wasn't the greatest renewal but he also smashed the likes of Black Op and Wholestone who some would argue could potentially contend for a place. Watching the race back too PP was visually impressive, powering away up the hill in dominant fashion. We keep hearing about other contenders such as Bacardys, Bapaume, Faugheen, Supasundae and Kilbricken Storm. But where is the form this season that gives people the confidence that these horses will beat Paisley Park. I like Kilbricken Storm but he's coming back from injury and Faugheen is an 11 year old coming back from a heavy fall, and these are PP's biggest dangers potentially. Yes PP may well not win but there's hardly enough to be saying he's the biggest lay of the week.
                    In contrast on the same shows the general consensus is that Sir Erec is a banker. I like Sir Erec and do believe he could potentially win comfortably, however i think there are more flaws in his form than Paisley Park. Firstly Sir Erec is very inexperienced over hurdles, having just two runs. The first run he beat Tiger Tap Tap by a neck and TTT looked to be finishing marginally the better at the line. The second race I think suited Sir Erec's flat speed and he quickened away well to scoot away from the pack. On a stiff track like Cheltenham, running at a much faster clip could that turn of pace be run out of Sir Erec? Could his jumping inexperience result in an error when the pressure is on?
                    My general point is I don't understand how a 12l beating of West Approach giving 6lbs and a 6l beating of Gardens of Babylon and Surin is causing people to call one horse a banker and one horse lay of the week.
                    I'm with you mate. Although I also think Erec is brilliant too.

                    Paisley Park looks an ideal Cheltenham horse to me.
                    But the way he comes off the bridle will worry some people, and make them think he's vulnerable, but in my mind/eye he has done this consistently this year and then found another gear.

                    Some of the greatest horses we've seen at Cheltenham have been niggled and then as soon as the hill comes into play they find another gear and power up it.

                    Paisley Park is no certainty, as the Irish contenders have yet to meet him, and they were mostly fighting the finish out last year (off a slow pace), and Kilbricken Storm reverting to hurdles after the way it won the Bartlett last year is also a danger -

                    but I expect PP to win going away.

                    Brave Inca.
                    Inglis Drever.
                    Big Bucks.
                    Altior.
                    Quevega.

                    Have all showed similar tendencies on the track.

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                    • All very true chaps, yeah Quevega i can picture him storming up the hill. Just wish I'd have put more on at the bigger prices. A pinch of salt definately Scooby, just find it amusing and mildly irritating some of the views you get.
                      And group think is definately what it is Old Vic, I like that phrase.
                      Last edited by SamuelP; 6 March 2019, 09:16 AM.

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                      • Thanks Cashew, always find the previews with a more tipster based panel interesting rather than trainers/jockeys just all telling us how well their horses are

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                        • I attended the festival preview last night at the claddaghring.
                          In attendance
                          A.King
                          D.Jacob
                          A.Thornton
                          S.Boyce
                          And a couple more that I can't remember.

                          The panel were all in agreement that Santini won't run??
                          They also stated Fakir Doudaries won't run either. He scooped badly apparently.

                          King won't have a runner in the Ultima.
                          I asked Jacob "of all his outside rides at the fez what was his biggest fancy-Le Breuil in the Ultima.
                          King spoke highly of his bumper horse and then napped Blue Sari??? go figure.
                          They were all very sweet on Hazel Hill for the Foxhunters.
                          They were all over Magic Saint, said it couldn't get beat??
                          The usual chat about the main races.

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                          • King also spoke at length about this trotting out rule the vets are bringing in at the festival. He stated that if they were deemed to be not walking right they'll scratch the horse???? This could have dire concequences Imo.

                            If you'd like me to go into this story in more detail I will.

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                            • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
                              King also spoke at length about this trotting out rule the vets are bringing in at the festival. He stated that if they were deemed to be not walking right they'll scratch the horse???? This could have dire concequences Imo.

                              If you'd like me to go into this story in more detail I will.
                              That's completely normal.
                              King's a penis.

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                              • Originally posted by quevega View Post
                                That's completely normal.
                                King's a penis.
                                That was news to me Q. Cheers.

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