RSA Chase 2019

[Cooldaddy]

Have to admit I do like Delta Works and has the advantage of a top top jock.

[Scooby91]

It isn't as if Kempton perfectly suits Topofthegame either.

He finished ahead of Santini fair and square and is 4 times the price.

Travelled all over him and got in a fight with la bague au roi which diddnt help either in terms of santini's finishing position. Take her out he'd have won very easily.
Take him out so would she.

How close will santini be at chelt going to the last?
He won't be upsides that's for sure

[Faugheen_Machine]

It isn't as if Kempton perfectly suits Topofthegame either.

He finished ahead of Santini fair and square and is 4 times the price.

4 times the price? He is best price 9/1 for this.

Personally, I'd rather take the 4/1 Santini than 9/1 TOTG. I'm not convinced that 3 miles will suit TOTG*

* At Cheltenham.

[archie]

On the face of it, Santini ran better at Aintree than at Cheltenham. It may just have been getting better with practice but I wouldn't be looking for that much improvement on the basis that Cheltenham is much more suited to him than Kempton. Right-handed might have been an issue but flat tracks certainly aren't.

[Cooldaddy]

Cheltenham is totally different track to Kempton. The fences are close together, tight turns and does not suit a real powerful galloper. Bit like Native River he was allways fighting in the KG and my view will finish ahead of the KG field in the GC.
Topofthegame is a lovely big horse, has never won over 3 miles and I believe that Nicholls said that he was still weak and will come into his own next year.

[Quevega]

Cheltenham is totally different track to Kempton. The fences are close together, tight turns and does not suit a real powerful galloper. Bit like Native River he was allways fighting in the KG and my view will finish ahead of the KG field in the GC.
Topofthegame is a lovely big horse, has never won over 3 miles and I believe that Nicholls said that he was still weak and will come into his own next year.

There's something in that, it seems strange given the distance travelled, but history shows some horses do better on different tracks, given the different formations.
It's working out which that's the difficult part.

[boopa]

Topofthegame travelled powerfully and outpaced Santini. I'm on Santini 14/1 but the current odds are just wrong.

[ComplyOrDie]

Topofthegame travelled powerfully and outpaced Santini. I'm on Santini 14/1 but the current odds are just wrong.

Fully agree about him being outpaced.

Going to aftertime here (sorry), as I completely forgot to put this up about Santini at the time, but I had concerns he'd get outpaced on a flat track like Kempton, so to see the way he did stay on at the end was really encouraging IMO. Cheltenham will be another story, I think he reverses that Kempton form myself, and notably, despite the 'wrong' price, he is still being backed for the race rather than drifting.

[Kevloaf]

4 times the price? He is best price 9/1 for this.

Personally, I'd rather take the 4/1 Santini than 9/1 TOTG. I'm not convinced that 3 miles will suit TOTG*

* At Cheltenham.

Second time I've done that in two days. Not checked the markets daily like normal.

Even so, 3 times the price is enough to sway me towards TOTG.

As in most of these debates I get into, I'm on both at bigger prices anyway so it's hard to know how exactly if play it if I was starting fresh today.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Second time I've done that in two days. Not checked the markets daily like normal.

Even so, 3 times the price is enough to sway me towards TOTG.

As in most of these debates I get into, I'm on both at bigger prices anyway so it's hard to know how exactly if play it if I was starting fresh today.

I'm on both too Kev, and would win more off TOTG, but I'll be surprised if he can't turn the form round. Santini never travelled round Kempton and Nico was niggling away in the first mile. I think he'll gallop them into the ground at Cheltenham.

[Kevloaf]

Do you think they'll male more use of him then?

I win more for Santini - why are we backwards haha

[Quevega]

Do you think they'll male more use of him then?

I win more for Santini - why are we backwards haha

swap bets ?

[Kevloaf]

swap bets ?

Of course not haha.

If they were the other way around in price Santini would be a great bet too

They should be closer in the betting is my poorly made point

[Faugheen_Machine]

swap bets ?

Yes please

Kev can have my 28/1 TOTG as long as I can have his 16/1 Santini

Kev - they should make much more use of him and take it up at the top of the hill. Denman and Don Poli used similar tactics in this race and I think Santini is in a similar mould.

[Cooldaddy]

Top of the hill take it up would be perfect and they would not see him.