Arkle - 2021

[Eggs]

...they tend to take those bets down during racing, but I have:

Shishkin (A) & 2022 CC @ 35-1 17th April with Lads.
Shishkin (A) & 2022 CC/ Envoi (M) @ 100-1 with Sky 19th April

Shishkin (A) & 2022 CC/ Envoi (A/R) & 2022 GC was 550-1 with Hills on 29th Sept

....long way to go, but a bit of fun.

[Kevloaf]

It was just a really good school round though wasn't it ?
The opposition are going to run scared. He's just going to have a procession every time he races.
He's beaten the square root of nothing in that race just then.
It remains to be seen what his jumping will be like when he's got someone upsides exerting pressure.
Not sure he'll be able to jump like that in softer ground, he might need it on the better side.
I'd want to see him against proper grade one animals before I think he's the next sprinter sacre.

I've just been possessed by the resident Grouch.
KB

That's similar to what you could have said about Sprinter Sacre after his debut though isn't it?

Or Altior?


The closest I can think of, is when people though Min will put it up to Altior, and he didn't get there....

I assume Willie will have something single figures, it'll be a decent clash and we'll see who is best.


Until then, we won't know....but that doesn't mean he's not a star either...

[Kevloaf]

I backed the double early and was 'stupid' enough to go in again this morning and throw another 4 Pts at it. Thought Shishkin would be cut in the betting but not like that . I think the performance warranted it though to be fair. Where do we think Shiskin will have his prep?

Aaah, the old secret after timed double.

Well done.




Henry VIII I imagine next up. Maybe he'll take in that Grade 2 in open company before winning the Arkle like Altior did, what's it called, not the Desert Orchid, the one he beat Fox Norton in....

[archie]

There won't be many that bet ante post, off the forum, that aren't on the same double to be fair. It gets no points for originality but it's exciting all the same.

Forum versus charlie so far. Like Titanic ploughing into a little kayak....... let's hope there are no icebergs though on the long journey !!!

I'm with Charlie. I think the rest of you have been at the amyl nitrate.

To be clear, absolutely nothing wrong today but the price is just crazy. I'd rather back him in a double or treble at odds on (NRNB or on the day) than take less than 2/1 over 3 months out.

[Kevloaf]

I'm with Charlie. I think the rest of you have been at the amyl nitrate.

To be clear, absolutely nothing wrong today but the price is just crazy. I'd rather back him in a double or treble at odds on (NRNB or on the day) than take less than 2/1 over 3 months out.

I haven't backed him at anything less than 4/1 archie

...and haven't suggested for anyone to back him at the current price?

.....and all my singles on him have been roll ups.....

.....and he's in multiples, as you have done with Envoi Allen.....

.......charlie's kayak becomes a canoe though...... anyone else want to board?

• Shishkin is shorter for the Arkle than Envoi Allen is for the Marsh - that's not the right way around.

[JackieMoon33]

There won't be many that bet ante post, off the forum, that aren't on the same double to be fair. It gets no points for originality but it's exciting all the same.

Forum versus charlie so far. Like Titanic ploughing into a little kayak....... let's hope there are no icebergs though on the long journey !!!

Make that a two man canoe as I'm paddling with Charlie Big Potatoes too.
Nothing sinister on my part as they are both likely to be head and shoulders above their rivals, I just don't back those types of bets.

[charlie]

It was just a really good school round though wasn't it ?
The opposition are going to run scared. He's just going to have a procession every time he races.
He's beaten the square root of nothing in that race just then.
It remains to be seen what his jumping will be like when he's got someone upsides exerting pressure.
Not sure he'll be able to jump like that in softer ground, he might need it on the better side.
I'd want to see him against proper grade one animals before I think he's the next sprinter sacre.

I've just been possessed by the resident Grouch.
KB

Well said Q. Potential superstar. Every chance we won't see him in deep water till Cheltenham which would be a shame.

[ComplyOrDie]

.......charlie's kayak becomes a canoe though...... anyone else want to board?

[Kevloaf]

Make that a two man canoe as I'm paddling with Charlie Big Potatoes too.
Nothing sinister on my part as they are both likely to be head and shoulders above their rivals, I just don't back those types of bets.

Oh my goodness, 3 in a boat... we need a bigger boooooat!!!!!!!

[Kevloaf]

Well said Q. Potential superstar. Every chance we won't see him in deep water till Cheltenham which would be a shame.

We definitely won't will we, absolutely nothing to give him a race that's gone novice chasing at this distance?

Same as when Simonsig or Sprinter Sacre went novice chasing?

Thank goodness for the Irish power houses....

[Faugheen_Machine]

Same here. Expect they’ll run at least 4 more times each. I’m gonna take a guess and say:

Envoi - Drinmore.. something at Christmas or Dublin Festival, Marsh and Punchestown

Shishkin - Henry 8th, Something late December/early January, Arkle and Aintree/Sandown (potentially)

Have they said what the plan is for Shishkin? I'd skip Sandown and go to Kempton on 27th December. Then Newbury in Feb and on to Cheltenham.

[Craigy14]

Have they said what the plan is for Shishkin? I'd skip Sandown and go to Kempton on 27th December. Then Newbury in Feb and on to Cheltenham.

Think Henderson said post race they will probably go back to Kempton next

[charlie]

We definitely won't will we, absolutely nothing to give him a race that's gone novice chasing at this distance?

Same as when Simonsig or Sprinter Sacre went novice chasing?

Thank goodness for the Irish power houses....

Exactly, we'll find out in March how good he really is, although in his defence he didn't enter deep water till March last year and did the business, arguably the hard way.

[Eggs]

....SkyBet now go 16-1 Shishkin Arkle & 2022 CC.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Think Henderson said post race they will probably go back to Kempton next

Thanks Craigy. That's the race that Sprinter absolutely destroyed Peddlers Cross in a few years ago.