Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

[Scooby91]

Too funny. De-ja-vu.

Last year you were so adamant that PP couldn't win,
That when 2nd favourite you said you wouldn't back him at that stage at 33/1...

Now I know that's literally a rubbish decision as a gambling man.

You already know my thoughts on ABP (very much like him) so I won't waste my time arguing a case that you'd refuse to believe. I was happy to leave it when you said if he wins the Gold Cup you'll admit he's a superstar .... that's fair enough.

This is the gold cup.

[Scooby91]

If that's the case why are you using "He's won
the fairyhouse gold cup
The 3m champions punchestown novice (bar townend)" to support your argument about what ABP has achieved.

As a fact, all ABP has done has won a 2m 5 1/2f Listed Chase, THAT is a far cry from a Gold Cup winner.

ABP form over 3m+: 5, F, RO. He's yet to even complete over 3m

I'm not even convinced he is Willie's number 1, let alone a challenger to PP.

Roll on the GC

[Middle_Of_March]

Not many people talking about jumping and ground. PP comes with no jumping concerns and has won at the festival on both good and soft ground. Al Boum Photo’s jumping does appear to have improved, but he doesn’t jump fences as consistently as PP and we know that he wants soft ground. Setting aside the visual impression PP left after winning the RSA and speculating about where ABP would have finished had he not fallen, these are two massive points that should not be overlooked when discussing gold cup credentials, and I don't think either are particularly debatable, regardless of who you like for the race.

Based on what both have done id say 3/1 vs 16/1 is a market overreaction on PP, but I can understand why the money has come. 2/2 at Cheltenham, he won the RSA easily. People like Gordon Elliott aren’t saying things like this without him being a complete weapon (March 10, 2018) ‘For me I think Presenting Percy is the best novice staying chaser in Ireland by a country mile. I think Presenting Percy will win this race (RSA) and I’d go as far as to say as Gary said, I don’t think we’ll just be talking about him, I think he’ll win the Gold Cup next year’. .

Can’t Catch Me is right Scooby, you shouldn’t be calling other people’s opinions rubbish. You were adamant PP had no chance in an RSA, an opinion people weren't calling rubbish, so you should afford CCM the same courtesy.

Well said..

[ComplyOrDie]

Roll on the GC

Agree, and may the best horse win!

[Scooby91]

De ja vu indeed Kev. But this one is getting tiresome. Nobody knows how good PP could be yet. Apart from scooby.

You've just said nobody knows how good PP could be.
How good is he right now?

Because after winning a bang average hurdle race he also won last year and no chase run since the RSA.
Suddenly he's a gold cup winner in waiting. And the best horse in the race.

How is he?

[bobbyvalentino]

How would you price up the pair Scooby?

[Scooby91]

How would you price up the pair Scooby?

Exactly the same price. Both 13/2 imo

[Scooby91]

He can certainly improve but he is a year older than many of last season's novices so there's no guarantee that he's improved as much as the likes of Al Boum Photo. His hurdle run today was only 3 or 4lb better than a year ago so, until he goes over fences again it's an unanswered question. As it stands, he hasn't put in a career performance that justifies 11/4.

Completely unbias. And factual .
I'd agree 100%.

[Scooby91]

Percy has an OR of 169 and a Timeform rating of 165p.

To put it in perspective, he is officially joint fifth rated (with 3 others) of the likely Gold Cup runners and barely gets in the Timeform top ten.

Again unbias and factual.

[JackieMoon33]

Again unbias and factual.

Something else that is factual is that, despite being a professional gambler, you display far too much emotion when it comes to certain horses. Think how much richer you could have been if you hadn’t been so blinkered in your view of Percy for the last two years.

[Scooby91]

Something else that is factual is that, despite being a professional gambler, you display far too much emotion when it comes to certain horses. Think how much richer you could have been if you hadn’t been so blinkered in your view of Percy for the last two years.

I'm not doing too badly thankyou. As iv said from the start of the season. Touch wood my bets and everyone elses get there sound . Aslong as I make profit at this festival.
from the end of March I shall no longer gamble for a living.

( will still follow racing)

[Kevloaf]

I'm not doing too badly thankyou. As iv said from the start of the season. Touch wood my bets and everyone elses get there sound . Aslong as I make profit at this festival.
from the end of March I shall no longer gamble for a living.

( will still follow racing)

I didn't know that?!

Boooo.

There's another 27 races for you to win so I have no doubt you'll have a profitable week ... you're just playing for the places here

[Scooby91]

I didn't know that?!

Boooo.

There's another 27 races for you to win so I have no doubt you'll have a profitable week ... you're just playing for the places here

Always the plan when I had a child. I really hope so.

[Quevega]

Thats the name of the race.

I know it is.
But it's not THE Savills chase is it ?

[JackieMoon33]

Always the plan when I had a child. I really hope so.

I wouldn’t have the minerals to gamble for a living if I only had to look after myself so it seems a wise decision now you have dependents.