Bubble burst for Crack Mome. Pulled too hard early and terrible jump at the last
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Supreme Novices 2017
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Originally posted by KingSprinterSacre View PostWhat do we make of moon racers hurdle form? won twice under a length victory over Ballyandy and a 2length victory of Mirsaale and Ballyandy again. Mirsaale next 2 races 5th of 6th beaten 64 lengths and then 9th of 9 beaten 27lengths. He doesn't scream a decent type to me. Ballyandy I don't know what to make of yet. 3 defeats, 2nd and 3rd to Moonracer then when stepped up in distance like I thought he needed but was beaten by Messire Des Obeaux (who has looked decent but over further than 2mile).
Will divide opinion I'm sure....
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Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View PostAfter that I've decided not to back any horse in this until final decs are announced. Jenkins is my only ante post play in the race and it just seems to be disappointing run, after disappointing run by those at the head of the market.
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I still think Moon racer is a lot better than he has shown so far as a hurdler, and his hurdle form rightly puts him at the head of the betting. The 2015 bumper was a very strong race and if his hurdling technique has continued to improve when he gets to Cheltenham I think he will win. I hope so as he is my only AP bet looking really strong at the moment - on at 20s.
I was interested to see that Senewalk has still been given an entry as I thought he was getting packed away for next season. If he were to get there fully fit I would still hope he might be a strong player - always a fan of horses first run after a wind op as you can often see dramatic improvement and he looked classy on the flat in France. Anyone know anything more about what's happening with him - he's in a lot of my multiples!
Finally, great forum this - first time posting - some good serious talk whereas Betfair has become rather poor.
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Walsh said: “Not as big a surprise as the first time. You’d be disappointed if he didn’t run well, but turning into the straight I was quite happy that he was going to be a good third.
“They were two fair horses in front of him and when he got by Gordon’s horse I thought Ruby had a bit more in the tank, but he joined him at the last and did it well.
“It’s a sharp old two around here. It’s tight on the inside and I was worried about that. It was down to be a Grade Two but it was a winners of one really, but he did it nicely, his jumping was very good, I thought he was going as quick as he wanted to be going.
“He could be a very good horse. He’s a big raw sort of a horse. I’ll leave it to Frank [Berry] and JP [McManus] I’m sure they’ll have loads of ammunition for Cheltenham, we won’t be rushing.
"We could maybe look at the Deloitte, which is five weeks away.
"We'll keep him to the better tracks, the likes of here, Leopardstown, Naas, Navan or Fairyhouse."
The sponsors, Sky Bet, gave Any Second Now a quote of 9-1 for the Sky Bet Supreme at Cheltenham in March, a race for which they are Non Runner No Bet.
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Originally posted by Vautour View PostI still think Moon racer is a lot better than he has shown so far as a hurdler, and his hurdle form rightly puts him at the head of the betting. The 2015 bumper was a very strong race and if his hurdling technique has continued to improve when he gets to Cheltenham I think he will win. I hope so as he is my only AP bet looking really strong at the moment - on at 20s.
I was interested to see that Senewalk has still been given an entry as I thought he was getting packed away for next season. If he were to get there fully fit I would still hope he might be a strong player - always a fan of horses first run after a wind op as you can often see dramatic improvement and he looked classy on the flat in France. Anyone know anything more about what's happening with him - he's in a lot of my multiples!
Finally, great forum this - first time posting - some good serious talk whereas Betfair has become rather poor.
Re Moonracer, I am a huge fan of this horse and I think he is underrated and improving each run over hurdles. I've also backed him for the CH as well.Last edited by loveracing; 14 January 2017, 03:39 PM.
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Only just seen the Crack Mome race... without the mistake I do think he would have won. Lost all momentum at the last. Not too concerning that he couldn't recover and get 'back up' to win HOWEVER, Ruby was asking for effort with 2f to go and he rarely does that if he doesn't need to on a hurdler. Even if he would have cleared the last, would I be confident he was powering away from a previously unfancied horse in Any Second Now? I'm not convinced...
Therefore, I come back to Moon Racer and if his target was certain I would probably really fancy it! Horses like Melon and Cilaos Emery are shortening without running because others in the yard have run poorly and if it wasn't Mullins (which I know MUST be factored in) they would not be shortening without doing anything? I appreciate Moon Racer has also shortened but at least he has some good form in the bag....
Moon Racer in unbeaten over hurdles still, has course form proven by his bumper win, has shown battling qualities, is proven on the likely better ground, and a jockey who will be pumped for the best week in his career riding full of confidence (plus, even if he got left out the back, like he did inthe bumper, would you be tearing your slip up? absolutely not).... after today and at 5/1 NRNB, with the positive comments that Mullins made regarding Crack Mome, and unlucky or not, he is NOT standout, and wouldn't have been if he pinged the last, I am going in on Moon Racer again, win only. I think he is the best we've seen over hurdles so far, that hasn't had their bubble burst yet.
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