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Triumph Hurdle 2019

Scooby91 said:
Who?
The fillie lamarckise who ran in a top notch race. Just behind thrilling.


Or if you mean adjali / beaumec de houlle your completely on drugs
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i mean chief justice ????
 
quevega said:
i mean chief justice ????
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My misunderstanding. Correct. But just how far is to be seen in the spring juvenile.

It's easy to see how far through cracker factory and king dargent who'd have finished infront of him himself if he jumped the last 2 and wasn't caught in the run in.

Adjali smashed him up on the bridle by along way.
And quel destin has beat cracker factory easily who in turn has smashed up chief justice. They're a good 15 lengths clear of him.and that's on the bridle.
Is sir erec, and will he have a flawless round of jumping, I don't know. The latter deffinately needs work.
 
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Scooby91 said:
My misunderstanding. Correct. But just how far is to be seen in the spring juvenile.

It's easy to see how far through cracker factory and king dargent who'd have finished infront of him himself if he jumped the last 2 and wasn't caught in the run in.

Adjali smashed him up on the bridle by along way.
And quel destin has beat cracker factory easily who in turn has smashed up chief justice. They're a good 20 lengths clear of him. Is sir erec, and will he have a flawless round of jumping, I don't know. The latter deffinately needs work.
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And I was referring ot how far the first two looked ahead of the horses Sorelita and TRumped who have close formlines with Chief Justice and sublime etc.
The betting for the spring juvenile looks strongly like they think Sir Erec is a fair bit better than Babylon also. So that maiden with Tiger tap tap now looks like being the key Irish race so far, until dublin that is.
 
quevega said:
And I was referring ot how far the first two looked ahead of the horses Sorelita and TRumped who have close formlines with Chief Justice and sublime etc.
The betting for the spring juvenile looks strongly like they think Sir Erec is a fair bit better than Babylon also. So that maiden with Tiger tap tap now looks like being the key Irish race so far, until dublin that is.
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I wouldn't disagree. I really hope lamarckise runs there. Or even more So, adjali coming over however unlikely that would be, it would top it off for me. Id love him to go off infront at a pace and see sir erec trying to come up behind him with his jumping under pressure.
You can see adjali has been jumping since a very young age through the maccaire academy. Sir erec is a poor jumper atm. But he's only had 1 run. Even then he's not had to jump under pressure. Sir erec has ability but adjali runs in France and coming through that academy is a considerable advantage.
 
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Scooby91 said:
I wouldn't disagree. I really hope lamarckise runs there. Or even more So, adjali coming over however unlikely that would be, it would top it off for me. Id love him to go off infront at a pace and see sir erec trying to come up behind him with his jumping under pressure.
You can see adjali has been jumping since a very young age through the maccaire academy. Sir erec is a poor jumper atm. But he's only had 1 run. Even then he's not had to jump under pressure. Sir erec has ability but adjali runs in France and coming through that academy is a considerable advantage.
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I am totally with you on this...I really do think the best form this season so far is the Adjali and Quel Destin form. I strongly think that wherever Adjali runs next you will see the real horse once more now he is fully healthy again.
 
westcountry1 said:
I am totally with you on this...I really do think the best form this season so far is the Adjali and Quel Destin form. I strongly think that wherever Adjali runs next you will see the real horse once more now he is fully healthy again.
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I don't buy into not being healthy tbh. I just think In them conditions and with the tactics shown he was beaten by a very good, battle hardened juvenile. I expect he'll come on for the run.
 
Scooby91 said:
I wouldn't disagree. I really hope lamarckise runs there. Or even more So, adjali coming over however unlikely that would be, it would top it off for me. Id love him to go off infront at a pace and see sir erec trying to come up behind him with his jumping under pressure.
You can see adjali has been jumping since a very young age through the maccaire academy. Sir erec is a poor jumper atm. But he's only had 1 run. Even then he's not had to jump under pressure. Sir erec has ability but adjali runs in France and coming through that academy is a considerable advantage.
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Picking up on this chat. And I like Adjali and have backed him as most will have on here.

And I'm sure you're also aware, but some may have forgot, or aren't aware.

The triumph has only eight hurdles, and roughly the last 2 are in the last mile of the race. There's a long run from second last to last and that's often why stamina comes to the fore, as they get racing pretty quickly.
So the choice is classy speedy hurdler, or stamina laden clumsy at times beast type.
The stronger types have prevailed more often on recent years and the speedy types tend to fade a little approaching the last.
That's not to say this is always the case, but it's quite often the case.
But Sir erec would probably beat all the triumph horses on the flat over 2m plus, so average jumping may well be enough.
 
quevega said:
Picking up on this chat. And I like Adjali and have backed him as most will have on here.

And I'm sure you're also aware, but some may have forgot, or aren't aware.

The triumph has only eight hurdles, and roughly the last 2 are in the last mile of the race. There's a long run from second last to last and that's often why stamina comes to the fore, as they get racing pretty quickly.
So the choice is classy speedy hurdler, or stamina laden clumsy at times beast type.
The stronger types have prevailed more often on recent years and the speedy types tend to fade a little approaching the last.
That's not to say this is always the case, but it's quite often the case.
But Sir erec would probably beat all the triumph horses on the flat over 2m plus, so average jumping may well be enough.
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A very good post quevega.
 
There was a disappearing neck between Sir Erec and Tiger Tap Tap. Of the two I'd have Tiger Tap Tap at 14/1 rather than Sir Erec at 10/1 just as I prefer 16/1 Adjali to 14/1 Quel Destin.
 
archie said:
There was a disappearing neck between Sir Erec and Tiger Tap Tap. Of the two I'd have Tiger Tap Tap at 14/1 rather than Sir Erec at 10/1 just as I prefer 16/1 Adjali to 14/1 Quel Destin.
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I've covered both prior to dublin, but it was neck and neck all the way for me, the camera angle is misleading.
 
archie said:
There was a disappearing neck between Sir Erec and Tiger Tap Tap. Of the two I'd have Tiger Tap Tap at 14/1 rather than Sir Erec at 10/1 just as I prefer 16/1 Adjali to 14/1 Quel Destin.
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Agree with the first bit Archie.
 
Fenta des Obeaux and Farid set to both run again in the first tomorrow at Punchestown
 
Why?

Fenta just ran to the first and fell over?

Is it the beating of French Made?

I thought Farid was more highly rated before either made their debuts....
 
Kevloaf said:
Why?

Fenta just ran to the first and fell over?

Is it the beating of French Made?

I thought Farid was more highly rated before either made their debuts....
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The beating of French Made and also the fact Farid was so disappointing in a pretty weak race. Got stuffed at 2/7 didnt he? But by the looks of it you are right and he is the higher rated of the two.
 
I'd be putting a line through both runs personally - I won't be backing either tomorrow but to be confident on Fenta is a little misguided IMO.

I backed both any race so as long as one of them wins I won't complain :highly_amused:
 
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