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Trainer quotes 2021/22 season

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Trainer Quotes

Harry Fry in the Racing Post

Metier was the Dorset stable's flagbearer during the last campaign and is to remain over hurdles this season.

Fry said of the five-year-old:
"He was very good in his first season over hurdles but Cheltenham didn't go to plan. He's fully recovered thankfully and we'll have a second season over hurdles and we'll see how far he can climb the ladder."
 
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Excerpt from Gordon Elliott interview with RP, I guess I'm adding it here as the first bit shows how highly thought of Envoi Allen still is.

Hopefully we'll get to see his true form this coming season.
"When Envoi Allen was here, there wasn't a night I didn't lie in bed thinking about him. And now that he's gone, there still isn't a night I don't lie in bed thinking about him, but I have never had a cross word with any of the owners who left. I still speak to them all and the gate is always open. I understand completely why they had to go.

"Having said that, I still have a brilliant bunch of owners here who have stuck by me and want to support me and want to see me get back to where I was."

If Elliott's summer store acquisitions are anything to go by, many of those owners are in it for the long haul. At Goffs' Land Rover Sale, a raft of the most expensive lots were knocked down to patrons like Noel and Valerie Moran's Bective Stud and Andrew and Gemma Brown.

The Morans' €230,000 Shantou top lot is housed at Cullentra, while four six-figure acquisitions bound for Elliott had an aggregate cost of €800,000.

At Tattersalls Ireland's Derby Sale, the Morans also secured the top lot in the shape of a €280,000 son of Walk In The Park, as they did at Tattersalls' Cheltenham Sale in April by paying ?220,000 for the highly regarded point-to-point winner Au Fleuron.

While Michael O'Leary's Gigginstown House Stud, the cornerstone of Elliott's ascent, is no longer in the market for new blood, he is hardly short of fresh investment.
 
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A few quotes from Nicholls and de Bromhead in the Jockey Club magazine. Nothing too interesting and too much to type out but the summary:

Frodon: Says he "Doesn't see any point in running him in the Cheltenham Gold Cup". No mention of Ryanair but sounds like he will be skipping Cheltenham to me
Clan Des Obeaux: No mention of Cheltenham unsurprisingly

Bravemansgame: Start off novice chasing over two and a half miles, probably via the Kauto Star Novices Chase at Kempton

McFabulous: Better going right handed, might to to the Kauto Star too but will try and keep him and Bravemansgame apart

Paso Doble: "The plan is to aim at the better novice hurdles. He's big, scopey and has a huge engine. You never know what's in the locker."

Minella Times: No plans yet

Honeysuckle: Not discussed which way we are going with her yet (I'm assuming this is outdated)

Put The Kettle On: Schloer and Champion Chase

Bob Olinger: Chasing, between two and two and a half miles

Minella Indo: Gold Cup
 
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C'mon The Kettle!!


Looks like Bollinger will skip Cheltenham then..........no 2 1/4 mile races.......:cower:
 
I'm finding it difficult to part company with my cashout-able Bollinger RSA slips. It's just too good a 'just in case' price at this early stage. Does this make me (even more of...) a mug punter?!
 
I've the same problem AV. Even if i did cash out i still wouldn't be over confident in deciding arkle or marsh. But the 20/1 is just too good to let go isn't it?:indecisiveness:
 
Atlantic Viking said:
I'm finding it difficult to part company with my cashout-able Bollinger RSA slips. It's just too good a 'just in case' price at this early stage. Does this make me (even more of...) a mug punter?!
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I'd be surprised if they dismissed (or otherwise) the 3m race before the Dublin Festival so I think you'll have plenty of time/opportunity to cash out if you wanted to.
Personally I still think there's a reasonable chance that's where he'll head...
 
The jockey club 'kalendar' magazine has just landed via whoever was todays postie, the full Bob Olinger quote from Henry:

"The plan with him is to go chasing next season. He was brilliant in the Ballymore and looks like a really exciting young horse. I think he is one of the best novice hurdlers we've had. I'd say we'll start off looking at races between two and two-and-a-half miles and then see how we are getting on. He does a lot of loose schooling at home, so hopefully, he should be fine over them".

Makes it sound much more like all options are still open, as you'd expect. Marsh is still the obvious front runner but i'd have the RSA as next best over the Arkle. We shall see!
 
Harry Whittingham says his horse to follow this season is Galudon. Horse is still listed as being with Sam Curling but obviously no longer. Not hugely interesting on the face of it, but Galudon was 13l behind Journey With Me at Gowran Park back in March and it was even more comfortable for JWM than that distance would suggest, so it's encouraging to hear that Galudon is well thought of. In the vid Harry says the horse will start off over 2m 1/2 and may be up to 3m by the end of the season, calls him a "proper big galloping type".

https://twitter.com/paulfergusonJTF/...51429865807877
 
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Harry Whittingham says his horse to follow this season is Galudon. Horse is still listed as being with Sam Curling but obviously no longer. Not hugely interesting on the face of it, but Galudon was 13l behind Journey With Me at Gowran Park back in March and it was even more comfortable for JWM than that distance would suggest, so it's encouraging to hear that Galudon is well thought of. In the vid Harry says the horse will start off over 2m 1/2 and may be up to 3m by the end of the season, calls him a "proper big galloping type".

https://twitter.com/paulfergusonJTF/...51429865807877
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Thats a good spot

As you say, if its the stables horse to follow, then that is a big plus sign for collateral form with Journey With Me :encouragement:
 
Winging The Last said:
Paul Nicholls interview at Newton Abbott today

https://twitter.com/attheraces/status/1434880400762052613?s=21

Lalor and sounds like all of the Kate & Andrew Brooks horses that were at Harry Whittinghams have gone to him.

Bravemansgame may start off in the Rising Stars Novices chase at Wincanton 2.5 miles in early November
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Was there anything that came out about that move that I've missed?

Harry did a superb job in my humble opinion... 3rd, 2nd and 1st from as many runners? That's Pat Kelly kind of returns :applouse::tongue-new:
 
Any seen or read anything about the Skelton trained Third Time Lucki? He appeared to be just short of the top level last year failing to place at Cheltenham & Aintree but not finishing too far away. I don’t know if he’s set to stay over hurdles or go chasing. I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough but curious if a plan for next season has been discussed yet
 
If there was any Grand Annual betting out now, I would be having an early nibble!
 
I'm quite looking forward to Dan's stable tour actually, third time lucki like you mention I think would go novice chasing since hes probably a coral cup type if he was to stay hurdling so I'd say grand annual would be a decent target! Also want to see what he does with Midnight River, possible one for the NHC perhaps if it goes novice chasing since I doubt it would be good enough for the BANC
 
Atlantic Viking said:
The jockey club 'kalendar' magazine has just landed via whoever was todays postie, the full Bob Olinger quote from Henry:

"The plan with him is to go chasing next season. He was brilliant in the Ballymore and looks like a really exciting young horse. I think he is one of the best novice hurdlers we've had. I'd say we'll start off looking at races between two and two-and-a-half miles and then see how we are getting on. He does a lot of loose schooling at home, so hopefully, he should be fine over them".

Makes it sound much more like all options are still open, as you'd expect. Marsh is still the obvious front runner but i'd have the RSA as next best over the Arkle. We shall see!
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Not to labour a question as I know this has been covered here and elsewhere, but I had a thought this morning (and it's relevant to me because I have nothing on Bob in the Arkle, but a couple of bets on RSA - most bets on Marsh, like most here so could be irrelevant)... Is the Arkle actually more likely than the RSA?

Consider HDB's statements like 'he's never been short of speed' and contrast them with HDB's statement of Journey With Me 'he's a proper galloper'. I've no idea if JWM is remotely close in ability to Bob, but they are both under the same ownership so you'd expect them to have at least an idea. If you've got what appears to be a resolute stayer in JWM, who could be anything, and a 'speedy' horse like Bob, would it be in your thought process to send Bob down the shorter route (at least initially) to see if you could win Champion/Ryanair Chase with him and Gold Cup with JWM. I know it's probably too early to know how things will pan out, but would an owner/trainer be thinking that way? Naively (never had a horse, know things go wrong but not really sure how many things go wrong), I probably would in that situation.
 
Hi Odin, I'd be surprised if trainers, even the top ones, thought like that simply because it's not a given that gold cup horses just appear on a conveyor belt year after year.

Look at how long it took Willie Mullins to win a gold cup albeit his 2nd win came along a lot quicker.

From an owner's perspective, I recall Michael O'Leary eventually having Don Cossack as a GC winner, but prior to that he'd had Weapons Amnesty and Sir Des Champs being touted as potential winners but it didn't work out for them, point being GC winners are hard to come by!
If they sent Bob O down the 2 mile route just to give JWM a go at the following year's gold cup, what happens if JWM doesn't produce or worse, gets an injury? I would guess they'll make plans for the coming season but obviously the first few runs will dictate if those have to be changed or not, but I think Bob O will have an individual plan and so will JWM, they won't be part of the same plan.

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