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Tingle Creek 2020

Kevloaf said:
Yeah fair enough.

Moonlighter didn't enhance the Greanateen form this weekend just gone did he?

I'd prefer RV to him myself, but that means I just might back him on the day and chance him on the ground rather than play it ante post. I should have taken Politilogue ante post when someone mentioned it at 10/1.

Missing out on that means I'll just wait until the day.

Not got enough confidence in Altior to pile in to him, may end up with no bet!
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Nope, well he fell at the 5th, so it's hard to know from there what he was going to do.

As a horse so would i at this stage, but given the forecast i wouldn't be confident on him for this. You're right though the play is to hold off, as with some rain he might even drift a bit more, or be pulled.

I thought Castlegrace Paddy was an interesting one for the big priced e/w angles, Coral still paying 3 places at 25s. He is likely to also have the option of staying at home and running at Cork. Though with the dead 8 here, and possible ground/fitness concerns of some, it's might be a shrewd bit of placing. He's not good enough on his form to win, but with softer ground he's good enough to run well and place. Having won 3xG2s you'd hope they might have a tilt at this, but then he won a Hillyway so they might just go back for that....

Just read in the Irish Indo, that Pat Fahy is keen to run at Sandown but the rain needs to come or he won't go. Thinks tongue tie has been a huge help to him.
 
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Six 48hr declarations

Altior (IRE) Brewin'upastorm (IRE) Castlegrace Paddy (IRE) Greaneteen (FR) Politologue (FR) Rouge Vif (FR)
 
Are they trying for a handicap mark with brewinupastorm

his jumping is his weakness and this is the track that exposes that the most

hes 148 atm if they can get him a few lbs lower he starts to look increasingly well handicapped
 
With all this rain Castlegrace Paddy is looking more and more appealing at 33s
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I think it's dangerous taking the odds on Altior at this stage and it'd be safer waiting until after final decs.

The wind will only have to be blowing in the wrong direction for Hendo to pull him out. :beaten:

I really like Politilogue in this and took the 10/1 and 8/1 a while ago. He'd have little to no chance if a prime Altior turned up but I'm not convinced Altior is going to be the horse he was. Hope I'm wrong on that though:ambivalence:
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Hendo doing what Hendo does!
 
Erghh another antepost punt nicking value early and no run for it, Part of the game but rough lately !
Still love you Altior, not so much Nicky.

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Worth noting P/P are doing a "justice refund" for anyone who had backed antepost with them. It's not something they should do or anyone should expect to receive but fair play to them.
 
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Outlaw said:
Erghh another antepost punt nicking value early and no run for it, Part of the game but rough lately !
Still love you Altior, not so much Nicky.

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Worth noting P/P are doing a "justice refund" for anyone who had backed antepost with them. It's not something they should do or anyone should expect to receive but fair play to them.
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Sickening news......what's the score with P/P Outlaw ?
 
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Dont know that to make of that decision

Really really disappointed as a fan of the sport that a superstar is a NR for the Tingle Creek!!! Disappointing as I was really looking forward to the race and seeing Altior being back

Is it really that bad at Sandown, I've seen it be worse
It's getting a little silly now, ground is too good, ground is too soft... now, Altior is getting on and this year will be his last chance to regain the QM but it's so frustrating as a punter and fan
 
Pendil1111 said:
Sickening news......what's the score with P/P Outlaw ?
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It appears anyone who had backed antepost with them they have given a free bet to according to twitter. They did the same on him & Chacun in the Champion Chase in March.
 
opatcho said:
Ok, it all makes sense now
Henderson having a right mare at Sandown, both of his hot favourites beaten out of site. Probably not as fit as he'd have them, or the ground is actually quite bad
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Maybe a winter bug perhaps?
 
Jockeys all saying it’s really hard work.
 
Altior would have won that going backwards. So frustrating. Fair play to Politologue though, proper honest horse.
 
Jorvik said:
Altior would have won that going backwards. So frustrating. Fair play to Politologue though, proper honest horse.
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Would he?

Not sure....
 
Kevloaf said:
Would he?

Not sure....
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On the Altior seen in Feb, yep. Unless a lot has changed between now and then that we don't know. What's been beaten today? Hats off to Politologue, he's run his race, but it didn't give us much we didn't already know.
 
Jorvik said:
On the Altior seen in Feb, yep. Unless a lot has changed between now and then that we don't know. What's been beaten today? Hats off to Politologue, he's run his race, but it didn't give us much we didn't already know.
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He's beaten two horses that had entered the QMCC market and beat them easily enough?

Some people watched that piece of work and have ruled Altior out...

I'm just highlighting it's not clear cut he'd had beaten Politilogue easily If you're picking the Altior from Feb, I'll have the one who was all out to beat Politilogue.... now Altior is 11, it's hardly impossible to assume he's not getting better, and only a slight regression puts him bang there with Politilogue doesn't it?



I haven't watched that race today and thought it boosts Altior's claims particularly
 
Kevloaf said:
He's beaten two horses that had entered the QMCC market and beat them easily enough?

Some people watched that piece of work and have ruled Altior out...

I'm just highlighting it's not clear cut he'd had beaten Politilogue easily If you're picking the Altior from Feb, I'll have the one who was all out to beat Politilogue.... now Altior is 11, it's hardly impossible to assume he's not getting better, and only a slight regression puts him bang there with Politilogue doesn't it?



I haven't watched that race today and thought it boosts Altior's claims particularly
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I didn't rule Altior out off the back of that work, i've bored the forum to death in a couple of posts recently that touch on the subject.

I'm not talking as an Altior backer, my eggs are in the PTKO basket which i'm still very much happy with. I'm just saying that had Altior turned up today, unless there's something big we don't know about, I would have had him as the winner without having to give it too much thought.

Rouge Vif is a horse we know enough about at this point and Greaneteen made hardwork of it at Exeter and it looks like that's his level. Neither are QMCC level.
 
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