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Supreme Novice Hurdle 2019

quevega said:
There's a lot pointing to the yard thinking he is better though.
whether they're right or wrong is another matter.
Not sure why you'd be surprised ?
Disappointed (maybe), surprised (probably shouldn't be).
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Surprised in a flat bred being better than a proven French NH Bred, who has solid form in the bag already.

IF SE is better (at this stage of their careers) I will still be surprised. Some level of disappointment too tbh, but I'm confident I am right in this instance.
 
Paul Nicholls – Ashutor, Danny Kirwan, Getaway Trump, Grand Sancy, Greaneteen

1999 11th Silence Reigns Joe Tizzard 66/1
2000 7th Silence Reigns Joe Tizzard 20/1
2003 5th Thisthatandtother Ruby Walsh 9/2
2004 10th Albuhera Ruby Walsh 5/1
2004 5th Garde Champetre Timmy Murphy 11/1
2006 1st Noland Ruby Walsh 6/1
2006 6th Natal Christian Williams 16/1
2007 2nd Granit Jack Ruby Walsh 15/2
2007 8th Kicks For Free Sam Thomas 22/1
2008 5th Rippling Ring Ruby Walsh 10/1
2008 PU Pasco Sam Thomas 16/1
2009 13th Shamari Christian Williams 66/1
2011 1st Al Ferof Ruby Walsh 10/1
2012 5th Prospect Wells Ruby Walsh 14/1
2013 9th Dodging Bullets Daryl Jacob 12/1
2014 9th Irving Nick Scholfield 7/2 (JFav
 
Willie Mullins IRE – Annamix, Aramon, Blackbow, Breaken, Buildmeupbuttercup, Cash Back, Castlebawn
West, Come To Me, Concertista, Earth Day, Easy Game, Elite Charboniere, Face The Facts, Fast Buck. Francin,
Karl Der Grosse, Klassical Dream, Mister Blue Sky, Prince d'Aubrelle, Relegate, Sancta Simona, Tornado
Flyer, Zenon

1995 1st Tourist Attraction Mark Dwyer 25/1
1997 6th Three Scholars David Casey 20/1
1998 24th Really Chuffed David Casey 33/1
1999 5th Wither Or Which Ruby Walsh 20/1
2002 F Adamant Approach Ruby Walsh 12/1
2003 14th Joueur DEstruval Charlie Swan 14/1
2003 SU Arch Stanton David Casey 25/1
2004 6th Arch Stanton Shay Barry 33/1
2004 13th Euro Leader Davy Russell 66/1
2006 11th Quatre Heures David Casey 10/1
2007 1st Ebaziyan Davy Condon 40/1
2009 5th Cousin Vinny Mr Patrick Mullins 9/4 (Fav)
2009 12th Kempes Ruby Walsh 9/1
2010 5th Flat Out Paul Townend 20/1
2010 10th Blackstairmountain Ruby Walsh 12/1
2011 7th Zaidpour Paul Townend 11/1
2012 6th Allure Of Illusion Davy Condon 40/1
2012 15th Midnight Game Paul Townend 18/1
2012 19th Simenon David Casey 50/1
2013 1st Champagne Fever Ruby Walsh 5/1
2013 4th Un Atout Davy Russell 6/1
2013 6th Pique Sous Paul Townend 25/1
2014 1st Vautour Ruby Walsh 7/2 (JFav)
2014 6th Wicklow Brave Paul Townend 8/1
2014 10th Valseur Lido Bryan Cooper 16/1
2015 1st Douvan Ruby Walsh 2/1 (Fav)
2015 2nd Shaneshill Paul Townend 9/1
2015 6th Tell Us More Bryan Cooper 12/1
2015 7th Alvisio Ville David Casey 20/1
2016 2nd Min Ruby Walsh 15/8 (Fav)
2016 8th Petit Mouchoir David Mullins 20/1
2016 13th Bellshill Paul Townend 11/1
2017 2nd Melon Ruby Walsh 3/1 (JFav)
2017 5th Cilaos Emery David Mullins 12/1
2017 12th Bunk Off Early Paul Townend 6/1
2017 13th Crack Mome Danny Mullins 11/1
2018 8th Sharjah Paul Townend 20/1
2018 11th Getabird Ruby Walsh 7/4 (Fav)
 
Henry de Bromhead IRE - Dancing On My Own, Due Reward, Malinas Jack, Notebook, Raya Time
2015 3rd Sizing John Jonathan Burke 25/1
2016 7th Supasundae Jonathan Burke 12/1
2017 8th Capital Force Davy Russell 50/1
2018 4th Paloma Blue Davy Russell 14/1


Gordon Elliott IRE – Authorizo, Battleoverdoyen, Chosen Mate, Coko Beach, Commander of Fleet, Eclair de
Beaufeu, Felix Desjy, Galvin, Lethal Steps, Surin, Vision d'Honneur, Whoshotthesheriff

2013 7th Cause Of Causes Davy Condon 33/1
2016 4th Tombstone Bryan Cooper 12/1
2017 1st Labaik Jack Kennedy 25/1
2018 3rd Mengli Khan Jack Kennedy 14/1


more at https://files.constantcontact.com/205db977201/bea356b1-56fa-420b-9422-45ba4c90d40f.pdf
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Surprised in a flat bred being better than a proven French NH Bred, who has solid form in the bag already.

IF SE is better (at this stage of their careers) I will still be surprised. Some level of disappointment too tbh, but I'm confident I am right in this instance.
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Which is better bred ?
Who's achieved more in their respective careers ?
Whose form is more solid ?

I'm not confident either way to be fair,
But the irish generally don't send their best juveniles to england prior to the festival, although the way Fakir won on Saturday suggests they may have done so inadvertently this year.
 
Few people seem surprised Ruby has picked Klassical Dream over Aramon. If he doesn’t know which is the better horse yet surely that’s the whole idea of riding the one he hasn’t rode yet
 
FaugheenTheMachine said:
Few people seem surprised Ruby has picked Klassical Dream over Aramon. If he doesn’t know which is the better horse yet surely that’s the whole idea of riding the one he hasn’t rode yet
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I'd be pretty sure theyve a good idea who's the best horse. And he's sat on him.
 
Scooby91 said:
I'd be pretty sure theyve a good idea who's the best horse. And he's sat on him.
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Don't think it'll be as clear cut as that.
And I've backed KD not Aramon
 
quevega said:
Don't think it'll be as clear cut as that.
And I've backed KD not Aramon
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From Christmas


"Klassical Dream*goes well at home. He has plenty of experience in France, and he’s been improving in homework in the last couple of weeks.

Willie had plenty to choose from here, he goes really well though. He’s very experienced and he should handle the goodish ground.

The horse of Joseph O’Brien that was second on Gowran, Entoucas, will probably have improved from that run so he could be the danger in this.

We’re very happy with Klassical Dream though and hopefully he gets the day off to a good start for Willie and Paul.

Klassical Dream will win at Leopardstown in my view"
 
Scooby91 said:
From Christmas


"Klassical Dream*goes well at home. He has plenty of experience in France, and he’s been improving in homework in the last couple of weeks.

Willie had plenty to choose from here, he goes really well though. He’s very experienced and he should handle the goodish ground.

The horse of Joseph O’Brien that was second on Gowran, Entoucas, will probably have improved from that run so he could be the danger in this.

We’re very happy with Klassical Dream though and hopefully he gets the day off to a good start for Willie and Paul.

Klassical Dream will win at Leopardstown in my view"
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Don't want to put you off KD Scoob but a mate of mine over in Ireland says he may not be fully wound up this weekend as hes missed a bit of work lately. Rather put this up now than after the event.
 
jonthehammer said:
Don't want to put you off KD Scoob but a mate of mine over in Ireland says he may not be fully wound up this weekend as hes missed a bit of work lately. Rather put this up now than after the event.
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Dosent bother me personally.
 
Scooby91 said:
From Christmas


"Klassical Dream*goes well at home. He has plenty of experience in France, and he’s been improving in homework in the last couple of weeks.

Willie had plenty to choose from here, he goes really well though. He’s very experienced and he should handle the goodish ground.

The horse of Joseph O’Brien that was second on Gowran, Entoucas, will probably have improved from that run so he could be the danger in this.

We’re very happy with Klassical Dream though and hopefully he gets the day off to a good start for Willie and Paul.

Klassical Dream will win at Leopardstown in my view"
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not sure that makes it any clearer myself:confused:
 
Angels Breath being aimed at the Sydney Banks at Huntingdon on Thursday; could have to take on Emitom
 
Scooby, That quote doesn’t specifically indicate RW was riding him... he probably has, but I’ve not seen anything to surefire indicate he has. It may sound like I’m being daft suggesting no1 rider hasn’t ridden a supreme contender but he doesn’t and can’t work ride them all.
 
jack1092 said:
Scooby, That quote doesn’t specifically indicate RW was riding him... he probably has, but I’ve not seen anything to surefire indicate he has. It may sound like I’m being daft suggesting no1 rider hasn’t ridden a supreme contender but he doesn’t and can’t work ride them all.
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Are you on about riding him for the supreme. Or Sunday?

He's jocked up
 
Do we not think Vision D'Honneur will improve past Klassical Dream? Having only had 3 lifetime runs and Klassical Dream having 8.
 
monkfish said:
Do we not think Vision D'Honneur will improve past Klassical Dream? Having only had 3 lifetime runs and Klassical Dream having 8.
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Could do. He's been very well supported for Sunday's race. And always been very highly regarded at home.
 
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