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Hills scratch of the day gives me a free 5er bet if i stake a 10er on a horse. It says excludes antepost markets. If i go to put an antepost bet on the free 5er isnt there BUT if i select a horse running today and then double it with a horse running at cheltenham the bet is available to put on.

The question is, having laid the bet do they have to honour it OR if both selections win, will they void and say you can't use antepost bets as per the terms of the free bet?

IF it is the latter would IBAS then be able to help?

My view is if they have laid a bet they should pay it (they can't claim palpable error as the odds are correct). But wondered if anyone could shed any light?
 
Coral do the same and let you bet on the DOR/AP double, my view is that:
1. the website allows it, and
2. you've satisfied the condition of having a DOR bet so to add on an AP selection too makes the bet more risky so it looks like they are happy with that
 
Imperial Commander said:
Coral do the same and let you bet on the DOR/AP double, my view is that:
1. the website allows it, and
2. you've satisfied the condition of having a DOR bet so to add on an AP selection too makes the bet more risky so it looks like they are happy with that
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Appreciate the response, thanks IC - what you say makes total sense.
 
I've got a stupid question and can't believe I don't know the answer, when times are recorded for a race is it from when the tapes go up that the clock starts ?
Interesting being in the new members stand this season there have been a few races that start in front of the stand and it was noticeable (Friday) the 3m hurdle race they were set back 100 yards from the tape when they were let go and I kept thinking it will take them 5/6 seconds to reach the start line, how does that impact race times ?
I know there are some clever people here who will know the answer...
 
Istabraq said:
I've got a stupid question and can't believe I don't know the answer, when times are recorded for a race is it from when the tapes go up that the clock starts ?
Interesting being in the new members stand this season there have been a few races that start in front of the stand and it was noticeable (Friday) the 3m hurdle race they were set back 100 yards from the tape when they were let go and I kept thinking it will take them 5/6 seconds to reach the start line, how does that impact race times ?
I know there are some clever people here who will know the answer...
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Yeah they start it once tapes are up which is another reason not to actually time anything until reaching the first obstacle or section of a race, the other being they couldn't possibly start in the same spot every time anyway.
 
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Outlaw said:
Yeah they start it once tapes are up which is another reason not to actually time anything until reaching the first obstacle or section of a race, the other being they couldn't possibly start in the same spot every time anyway.
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Thanks Outlaw, appreciate the confirmation.
Always assumed that would be the case but with so many time judges out there these days it made me wonder, as you say the clock per furlong can be helpful I guess…
 
Any vets in the house?

What does the term 'clinically abnormal' actually mean? Can it be a range of things or is it specific to certain abnormalities?
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Any vets in the house?

What does the term 'clinically abnormal' actually mean? Can it be a range of things or is it specific to certain abnormalities?
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This is worth a read as most clinical abnormalities refer to blood samples - https://www.rossdales.com/assets/files/abhorse_blood.pdf

I work with quite a few equine vets and my understanding is clinically abnormal refers to any test result outside a normal range. Could be blood showing an infection, high levels of cortisol due to stress, might be an irregular heart rhythm post electrocardiogram, a test that shows unusual conductance speed (heart rhythm) - I'm sure a vet would tell you the list is endless.
 
charlie said:
This is worth a read as most clinical abnormalities refer to blood samples - https://www.rossdales.com/assets/files/abhorse_blood.pdf

I work with quite a few equine vets and my understanding is clinically abnormal refers to any test result outside a normal range. Could be blood showing an infection, high levels of cortisol due to stress, might be an irregular heart rhythm post electrocardiogram, a test that shows unusual conductance speed (heart rhythm) - I'm sure a vet would tell you the list is endless.
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Perfect, thanks charlie :encouragement:
 
What's a hypotenuse?
 
As someone who doesn't bet I don't take a lot of notice of the weight a horse carries. I was surprised to hear On Luck on Sunday at the weekend Nick Luck state that horses always carry 6lbs extra than the weight printed in the racecard or wherever. Why is this ? Is it the weight of the tack, extra equipment or for another reason ?
 
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Diamond Geezer said:
As someone who doesn't bet I don't take a lot of notice of the weight a horse carries. I was surprised to hear On Luck on Sunday at the weekend Nick Luck state that horses always carry 6lbs extra than the weight printed in the racecard or wherever. Why is this ? Is it the weight of the tack, extra equipment or for another reason ?
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I believe it's for jockey health. There was a study not so long ago (I think) saying they were dangerously underweight because in general they are getting taller so an extra 3lb(?) Was brought in to account for this. They then added a couple of lbs because the jockeys couldn't use the saunas through covid
 
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Odin said:
I believe it's for jockey health. There was a study not so long ago (I think) saying they were dangerously underweight because in general they are getting taller so an extra 3lb(?) Was brought in to account for this. They then added a couple of lbs because the jockeys couldn't use the saunas through covid
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Stupid comment alert……logically I would have thought that would help larger horses versus the smaller horses.
 
Cheltenham Novice Chase said:
Stupid comment alert……logically I would have thought that would help larger horses versus the smaller horses.
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The extra weight? If so I'd agree, but like it or loathe it, the impact on humans (i.e. the dangers of being underweight for a prolonged period of time) is deemed more important than the impact on animals/competitiveness of races in situations like this
 
What do we expect from the Mullins horses this weekend? Do we think they will be short of fitness to the extent that it's really noticeable (e.g. he has very few winners) or just to the extent that he has less winners than we might expect based on form because his horses will improve through the season? I can't help but think there could be some really good opportunities to find some bigger priced winners against his favourites?
 
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