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Stayers Hurdle 2018

Sirbetalot said:
But I give Sam spinner a chance, if I gave him no chance I would lay him at 100/1 for the win only, but I also give 8 other horses in the race a chance for the win..

I agree Lami could be better odds but he is not & the reason he is not much bigger than 12/1 is because he still have a chance and if the bookies & exchanges offered a much bigger price it would be snapped up... Then laid off jumping the last :)
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I've created a book on this race, the only losers I have at the moment are L'ami Serge, Penhill, Donna's Diamond and Old Guard.

I am much more fearful of Penhill...and could add him and still be in profit as long as L'ami, DD and OG don't win....

I've already put my money where my mouth is.... and I am still going to lay him :p

I'm not complaining at all that L'ami is 12/1 .... the more people who think he can win, the better....



100% agree, he is a back-to-lay in running prospect too, although that is not something I've done before or will be doing this year
 
Kevloaf said:
I've created a book on this race, the only losers I have at the moment are L'ami Serge, Penhill, Donna's Diamond and Old Guard.

I am much more fearful of Penhill...and could add him and still be in profit as long as L'ami, DD and OG don't win....

I've already put my money where my mouth is.... and I am still going to lay him :p

I'm not complaining at all that L'ami is 12/1 .... the more people who think he can win, the better....



100% agree, he is a back-to-lay in running prospect too, although that is not something I've done before or will be doing this year
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I won't keep going on about it, I starting to bore myself.. I only have him for small stakes, to me this is not a real betting race anyway but I like to have some interest in the race, I also like horse that come on the bridle as the race could be ran at a silly pace then fall apart at the end leaving Lami 15L clear :devilish:
 
Good point just made on the Coral preview. The one time The New One gets his ground for the Champion Hurdle he is in this race.
 
Sam Spinner well supported recently but could Donna's Diamond make things difficult for Joe Colliver? No easy lead.
 
More stats out the window, lol! Albert Bartlett winner and the big lay off! Jeez!

Archie warned us ;)
 
Wow. I did NOT expect that.

No gamble on the day either...

Some animal! Looked to do that quite easily in the end!
 
Had him @ 20s & 16s for the AP last year but couldn't have him without a run this year.. dam.

Good horse...
 
Had a free bet on Penhill and LAAAAAAAAAY L'ami Serge :devilish:

I won more from the latter :p
 
Kevloaf said:
Wow. I did NOT expect that.

No gamble on the day either...

Some animal! Looked to do that quite easily in the end!
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There was money in the 5 days leading up to the festival though mate. Think he went from 14's to 8/1, then obviously drifted today.

Big training performance that one!
 
ComplyOrDie said:
There was money in the 5 days leading up to the festival though mate. Think he went from 14's to 8/1, then obviously drifted today.

Big training performance that one!
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Tony Bloom gambles do not happen in the build up though.

I don't think they expected that.

I'd be confident that wasn't a 'Bloom coup'.
 
Turned into a relative sprint and another 'good' ground winner.

Far too many horses in contention for that race to have suited Sam Spinner. Always a doubt about the jock at this level.
 
Kevloaf said:
Tony Bloom gambles do not happen in the build up though.

I don't think they expected that.

I'd be confident that wasn't a 'Bloom coup'.
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Archie confirmed he was trying to book out all the boxes for the Thursday some time ago, wouldn't have thought that would have been for nothing or maybe it was just coincidence that Penhill run well.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Archie confirmed he was trying to book out all the boxes for the Thursday some time ago, wouldn't have thought that would have been for nothing or maybe it was just coincidence that Penhill run well.
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I am sure he has the money to do that regardless.

I've been in to poker for a long time, and the money he's won would more than cover that.

Regardless though, absolutely dominating performance.

I hope they offer a decent price for 2019 because I don't see where the competition comes from?!
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Archie confirmed he was trying to book out all the boxes for the Thursday some time ago, wouldn't have thought that would have been for nothing or maybe it was just coincidence that Penhill run well.
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He's just said on RUK

He did have a bet but "more hope than expectation" at a good price.

I honmestly think he's surprised them all a bit.

WIllie says they'll hopefully fully aim him at the Stayers now too... rather than a flat campaign.

I'll be backing him for the Stayers 2019 as long as he's a decent price.
 
Kevloaf said:
I am sure he has the money to do that regardless.

I've been in to poker for a long time, and the money he's won would more than cover that.

Regardless though, absolutely dominating performance.

I hope they offer a decent price for 2019 because I don't see where the competition comes from?!
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Could probably buy the course with the dough he's won betting Football :highly_amused:

If they where whacking into that, the price would have collapsed just before the off.
 
Think its very harsh to blame the jockey on Sam Spinner. That performance from Penhill was well above average. Was always going to be tough for SS given his style of running. A worthy winner with a big future id say
 
ricksen1 said:
Think its very harsh to blame the jockey on Sam Spinner. That performance from Penhill was well above average. Was always going to be tough for SS given his style of running. A worthy winner with a big future id say
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Everyone is in agreement they have crawled. That was down to Colliver who had a relatively easy lead. Basically, by suggesting it is harsh to criticise the jock, you are suggesting that a slow pace suited Sam Spinner?
 
The stayer's championship was run over eleven seconds slower than the handicap. Nonsense of a race and the form will not necessarily have a bearing on next year's race though you can't argue with the merit of Penhill's win after such an absence.
 
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