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RSA Chase 2018

"He's a proper, big three-mile chaser. At this stage, of all the good horses I've had, none of them were ever as good as hurdlers, but that doesn't mean they'll do it as chasers."

A quote from Elliott last January. See no reason why he should of changed his mind regarding the trip!
 
Innoko said:
"He's a proper, big three-mile chaser. At this stage, of all the good horses I've had, none of them were ever as good as hurdlers, but that doesn't mean they'll do it as chasers."

A quote from Elliott last January. See no reason why he should of changed his mind regarding the trip!
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That was before his Albert Bartlett run though. The tank was empty at the bottom of the hill, or that's how it appeared to me.
 
An impressive win in the Drinmore and you'd think the JLT would come right back in to the mix regardless of what was said before... he'd have 2x G1 at the trip then..... I am already on DD at porices that are still available, but I would not have a bet on his for the festival at this stage... MAINLY due to the target now being uncertain. I Do still think the RSA but at 16s it isn't worth paying to find out.


Lucky for me and my 14's :highly_amused::disgust:
 
Gordy has won 3 of the last 6 runnings of the Drinmore.

All 3 winners then went an ran in the RSA.

If Death Duty makes the Drinmore and runs well, I would except to see him go for the RSA
 
Don't know about many others, but I see this as the most competitive of the Novice Chase races.

Yanworth, Willoughby Court, Monalee & Death Duty all looked in need of at least 2m 4f over hurdles, Bacardys less so, but I have no doubt he will stay 3m over bigger obstacles, having won a PTP.

I don't feel any of them, with the exception of maybe Yanworth, will have the pace for a shorter distance, at the very top level, which leaves them with this race or the National Hunt over 4m on day 1.

It would also leave the other 2 Novice Chases with little in them mind.

Again, all need to be able to jump a fence too!
 
He wants two and a half miles, he's won over two and a half all last year. To be honest, if he went and winged the last he'd have won by six or seven lengths on the bridle and everything would have been fine [regarding questions over his optimum trip], but I don't think he could have done any more than what he did. He's having a real good blow after the race too.

He wants two and a half miles, he's won over two and a half all last year. To be honest, if he went and winged the last he'd have won by six or seven lengths on the bridle and everything would have been fine [regarding questions over his optimum trip], but I don't think he could have done any more than what he did. He's having a real good blow after the race too.


I believe this to be misquoted as I haven't seen the part about him WANTING 2 1/2 on original quotes
 
Scooby91 said:
He wants two and a half miles, he's won over two and a half all last year. To be honest, if he went and winged the last he'd have won by six or seven lengths on the bridle and everything would have been fine [regarding questions over his optimum trip], but I don't think he could have done any more than what he did. He's having a real good blow after the race too.

He wants two and a half miles, he's won over two and a half all last year. To be honest, if he went and winged the last he'd have won by six or seven lengths on the bridle and everything would have been fine [regarding questions over his optimum trip], but I don't think he could have done any more than what he did. He's having a real good blow after the race too.


I believe this to be misquoted as I haven't seen the part about him WANTING 2 1/2 on original quotes
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Which part misquoted Scooby?
 
"He wants two and a half miles" I haven't seen that in the original quotes on Irish racing/ atr/ racing uk sites.. Apologies if I'm wrong
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Don't know about many others, but I see this as the most competitive of the Novice Chase races.

Yanworth, Willoughby Court, Monalee & Death Duty all looked in need of at least 2m 4f over hurdles, Bacardys less so, but I have no doubt he will stay 3m over bigger obstacles, having won a PTP.

I don't feel any of them, with the exception of maybe Yanworth, will have the pace for a shorter distance, at the very top level, which leaves them with this race or the National Hunt over 4m on day 1.

It would also leave the other 2 Novice Chases with little in them mind.

Again, all need to be able to jump a fence too!
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Interesting. I am a little unsure about this season being THE season that they all will go for 3m. I think in time, they'll all be staying chasers ... but comments the trainer of Yanworth and Willoughby Court have both mooted 2m4f for this season AND obviously the GE comments aren't cast-iron about target now either for Death Duty.

Monalee is more likely to go 4m than JLT but I haven't seen anything to back that up, and his form tailed off for me a little in the spring?

I'm also thinking Bacardys might end up in the 4m race because as Patrick Mullins' ride, so I can't really pin anything in this race as a definite runner yet! The 12's any race for Bacardys look better than the 16s for this race!

I definitely do think a few of them will turn up that you mentioned, but I wouldn't like to say which? Constantine Bay is the shortest price runner I'd be confident of running here (at 25/1) and I am not in any rush to back that before I see him jump as he'd need to improve for a fence.

DD wasn't impressive enough to back at his current odds. Monalee I want to see improve for a fence. Yanworth is too short for a horse that had an extra season over hurdles (again, I want to see him jumping) and Willoughby Court isn't certain to show up either in this.... very tough race for me at this stage!
 
I've seen Johnny Ward say that Presenting Percy goes novice chasing.... is this the race? 33/1 available and I want to be onside! Super impressed with his Cheltenham win last season and this looks THE race to me.... but I am worried he'll be aimed at a handicap? What do we think?
 
Going by how the owners have run Mall Dini, he'll be turning up in the Kim Muir.

Of the novice races, I'd be thinking 4 miler.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Going by how the owners have run Mall Dini, he'll be turning up in the Kim Muir.

Of the novice races, I'd be thinking 4 miler.
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He MUST be better than that? That Chelt performance from that mark was group class... but you're probably right. I still might have 0.5 pts each way though :highly_amused:
 
Am itching to back Topofthegame here. Very smart form over 2 1/2 miles last year (just touched off by Beyond Conceit who then finished upsides of the likes of Debece and Constantine Bay). However, Topofthegame should really come into his own over 3 miles. The form of his point win is strong and he's just a huge horse, an extra summer behind him and he should be a beast this year. Paddys haven't got him listed yet but as soon as they do I'm getting on, main fancy for this race for sure
 
Kevloaf said:
He MUST be better than that? That Chelt performance from that mark was group class... but you're probably right. I still might have 0.5 pts each way though :highly_amused:
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The 4 miler is a proper race now Kev, no longer a duplicate foxhunters for slower horses, a proper race...
 
Rathvinden has some decent form and looked like a proper horse last time out. A lot of whispers about the 4m being likely target and I'd want him onside for that if so
 
Istabraq said:
The 4 miler is a proper race now Kev, no longer a duplicate foxhunters for slower horses, a proper race...
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Yes, you're absolutely right. Very hard to pick a runner at this stage for me though
 
Robante said:
Rathvinden has some decent form and looked like a proper horse last time out. A lot of whispers about the 4m being likely target and I'd want him onside for that if so
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Aiming him at the Drinmore (2 1/2 mile) apparently. Has shown a fair bit of speed and that could be a stepping stone to the better 3 mile novice chases. He has a touch of class and trained by anyone else would be a strong RSA candidate; as it is, it all depends where he fits on the depth chart.
 
Bayoffreedom said:
Aiming him at the Drinmore (2 1/2 mile) apparently. Has shown a fair bit of speed and that could be a stepping stone to the better 3 mile novice chases. He has a touch of class and trained by anyone else would be a strong RSA candidate; as it is, it all depends where he fits on the depth chart.
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Even this far out you could see Bacardys and Rathvinden being the stables two main plays for the RSA and the 4 miler. Early markets would back that up also. Couldn't have any confidence as to which horse would go for which race though
 
Robante said:
Even this far out you could see Bacardys and Rathvinden being the stables two main plays for the RSA and the 4 miler. Early markets would back that up also. Couldn't have any confidence as to which horse would go for which race though
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Cracking shout with rathvinden; very simular profile to the ill fated pont alexandre
 
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