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Request-a-Bets (was 'Sky Bets' thread)

200/1 - Any race

Klassical Dream
Envoi Allen
Chacun Pour Soi


As Envoi Allen could run in any of 3 novice races at the moment, and Klassical Dream could end up as fav for the CH or Arkle - the any race element of this (at this stage) is decent enough. IF Altior doesn't run, or isn't the same horse then Chacun Pour Soi looks to be in pole position to rise through the ranks so without too much of a leap, these 3 could all be favourites in their respective races.

Speculative, but one of the better RAB's I've seen.
 
Kevloaf said:
200/1 - Any race

Klassical Dream
Envoi Allen
Chacun Pour Soi


As Envoi Allen could run in any of 3 novice races at the moment, and Klassical Dream could end up as fav for the CH or Arkle - the any race element of this (at this stage) is decent enough. IF Altior doesn't run, or isn't the same horse then Chacun Pour Soi looks to be in pole position to rise through the ranks so without too much of a leap, these 3 could all be favourites in their respective races.

Speculative, but one of the better RAB's I've seen.
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Appreciate the safety net of it being 'any race' but IF it was only Envoi Allen you were concerned about with regards to which race, then you could back all 3 options and still come out better than the 200/1 on offer, plus you have the option of going e/way for place money if you wanted too.

Personally I actually discount the Supreme straight away for EA, so I'd be backing Ballymore & AB only, which definitely means I'd be ahead of the 200/1 on offer.
 
These bets are fine for the free fivers.
I can only assume Sky have been hurt with free bets in the past year, they used to have plenty of free bet offers but I haven't seen any for months, a clear strategy shift for Sky.
The beauty of a free £50 bet is you can have a half decent ante post single/double/multi with that sum, the bet club £5 less so, hence throwing them on 200/1 request a bets...
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Appreciate the safety net of it being 'any race' but IF it was only Envoi Allen you were concerned about with regards to which race, then you could back all 3 options and still come out better than the 200/1 on offer, plus you have the option of going e/way for place money if you wanted too.

Personally I actually discount the Supreme straight away for EA, so I'd be backing Ballymore & AB only, which definitely means I'd be ahead of the 200/1 on offer.
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It is not just Envoi Allen that I'm not sure about. I don't see why you'd discount the Supreme either to be honest for Envoi Allen? He's literally won over 2 miles on the same course, so to discount it is just foolish. He looks like he'll get further and bred to, but you don't need me to tell you horses like Vautour, Champange Fever, Menorah, Al Ferof and Altior :devilish: excelled over further after winning a Supreme.



You'd be kidding yourself too if you thought Chacun Pour Soi and Min won't be at very least "discussed" as switching targets through the season. The Ryanair might end up looking there for the taking if CPS gets tried up in trip at any point. Willie won't commit until March 2020 - we know this. Even if it 'looks like' it's obvious, it won't be written in stone.


They haven't confirmed what Klassical Dream is doing, although it looks more obvious - but how annoyed would you be if they sent him chasing and is even money fav for the Arkle for the sake of not having a free £5 on a 200/1 shot?



Usually I think the Sky multiples are poor value (and often point it out) however with this one, I'd say it's one of the better I've seen.....

and yes, I agree Ista - I've only managed to get £40 built up in free bets so far on one account - I'll keep them all year and just put them on 'something' in Cheltenham week!
 
Not knocking a 200/1 poke, that's for certain and can see the appeal, was just pointing out that if you/anyone else was happy with targets for KD & CPS, as I am at this stage, you'd be better off backing the multiple options rather than going down the RAB route.

Have absolutely no qualms using a free bet or ten for it either.

I have my own views on EA and am discounting him for the Supreme, whether anyone else does is purely up to them.
 
Kevloaf said:
200/1 - Any race

Klassical Dream
Envoi Allen
Chacun Pour Soi


As Envoi Allen could run in any of 3 novice races at the moment, and Klassical Dream could end up as fav for the CH or Arkle - the any race element of this (at this stage) is decent enough. IF Altior doesn't run, or isn't the same horse then Chacun Pour Soi looks to be in pole position to rise through the ranks so without too much of a leap, these 3 could all be favourites in their respective races.

Speculative, but one of the better RAB's I've seen.
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Know where my fiver is going next Monday :encouragement:
 
somer1 said:
Week 20 added.
week 1. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 2. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4. Envoi Allen & Malone Road any race 66/1
Week 5. Envoi Allen & Klassical Dream any race 66/1
Week 6. Carefully Selected any race @ 16/1
Week 7. Cilaos Emery Queen Mother Champion Chase @ 20/1
Week 8. Trixie. Espoir D'allen 4/1 (CH) Benie Des Dieux 4/1 (Mares) Paisley Park 3/1 (Stayers)
Week 9. Blackbow any race 14/1
Week 10. Chacun Pour Soi,Laurina,Klassical Dream,Honeysuckle. All to place any race 28/1
Week 11. Interconnected any race 16/1
Week 12. Next Destination any race 12/1
Week 13. Tornado Flyer 16/1 any race
Week 14. Tornado Flyer 33/1 JLT Nov chase.
Week 15. Glynn 33/1 any race.
Week 16. Jon Snow 12/1 any race.
Week 17. Mick Pastor 33/1 Triumph Hurdle
Week 18. Trixie. Envoi Allen 10/1 Bally,Champ 8/1 RSA,Kemboy 6/1 Gold Cup
Week 19. A Plus Tard 12/1 any race.
Week 20. Dallas Des Pictons any race 16/1
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Week 15 i added Glynn @33's Now 25's with skybet and 20's with Hills
 
Week 21 added.
week 1. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 2. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4. Envoi Allen & Malone Road any race 66/1
Week 5. Envoi Allen & Klassical Dream any race 66/1
Week 6. Carefully Selected any race @ 16/1
Week 7. Cilaos Emery Queen Mother Champion Chase @ 20/1
Week 8. Trixie. Espoir D'allen 4/1 (CH) Benie Des Dieux 4/1 (Mares) Paisley Park 3/1 (Stayers)
Week 9. Blackbow any race 14/1
Week 10. Chacun Pour Soi,Laurina,Klassical Dream,Honeysuckle. All to place any race 28/1
Week 11. Interconnected any race 16/1
Week 12. Next Destination any race 12/1
Week 13. Tornado Flyer 16/1 any race
Week 14. Tornado Flyer 33/1 JLT Nov chase.
Week 15. Glynn 33/1 any race.
Week 16. Jon Snow 12/1 any race.
Week 17. Mick Pastor 33/1 Triumph Hurdle
Week 18. Trixie. Envoi Allen 10/1 Bally,Champ 8/1 RSA,Kemboy 6/1 Gold Cup
Week 19. A Plus Tard 12/1 any race.
Week 20. Dallas Des Pictons any race 16/1
Week 21. Klassical Dream,Envoi Allen,Chacun Pour Soi All to win any race 200/1
 
Week 22 added.
week 1. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 2. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4. Envoi Allen & Malone Road any race 66/1
Week 5. Envoi Allen & Klassical Dream any race 66/1
Week 6. Carefully Selected any race @ 16/1
Week 7. Cilaos Emery Queen Mother Champion Chase @ 20/1
Week 8. Trixie. Espoir D'allen 4/1 (CH) Benie Des Dieux 4/1 (Mares) Paisley Park 3/1 (Stayers)
Week 9. Blackbow any race 14/1
Week 10. Chacun Pour Soi,Laurina,Klassical Dream,Honeysuckle. All to place any race 28/1
Week 11. Interconnected any race 16/1
Week 12. Next Destination any race 12/1
Week 13. Tornado Flyer 16/1 any race
Week 14. Tornado Flyer 33/1 JLT Nov chase.
Week 15. Glynn 33/1 any race.
Week 16. Jon Snow 12/1 any race.
Week 17. Mick Pastor 33/1 Triumph Hurdle
Week 18. Trixie. Envoi Allen 10/1 Bally,Champ 8/1 RSA,Kemboy 6/1 Gold Cup
Week 19. A Plus Tard 12/1 any race.
Week 20. Dallas Des Pictons any race 16/1
Week 21. Klassical Dream,Envoi Allen,Chacun Pour Soi All to win any race 200/1
Week 22. Zero Ten any race 16/1
 
Latest update after 22 weeks


Week 1 - Trixie: Altior (Champion Chase @ 3/1), Paisley Park (Stayers Hurdle @ 3/1) & Tiger Roll (Cross Country @ 5/2)
Week 2 - RequestABet Treble: Altior (Champion Chase), Paisley Park (Stayers) & Klassical Dream (Any Race) @ 100/1
Week 3 - RequestABet Treble: Altior (Champion Chase), Paisley Park (Stayers) & Klassical Dream (Any Race) @ 100/1
Week 4 - Gypsy Island to win the Mares Novice Hurdle @ 12/1
Week 5 - Draconien to win the Arkle @ 40/1 Each Way
Week 6 - Trixie: Espoir D’Allen (Champion Hurdle @ 5/1), Benie Des Dieux (Mares @ 4/1) & Paisley Park (Stayers @ 3/1)
Week 7 - Double - Espoir D’Allen (Champion Hurdle) & Benie Des Dieux (Mares) @ 29/1
Week 8 - Delta Work to win the Gold Cup @ 14/1 Each Way
Week 9 - Delta Work to win the Gold Cup @ 14/1 Each Way
Week 10 - Champ to win the RSA Chase @ 8/1 Each Way
Week 11 - Klassical Dream to win any race @ 5/1
Week 12 - Malone Road to win any race @ 9/1
Week 13 - Paisley Park to win the Stayers Hurdle @ 3/1
Week 14 - RequestABet Treble: Klassical Dream, Envoi Allen & Chacun Pour Soi all to win any race @ 200/1
Week 15 - Defi Du Seuil to win the Ryanair @ 11/2
Week 16 - Hazel Hill to win the Foxhunters @ 7/1
Week 17 - Envoi Allen to win any race @ 6/1
Week 18 - Envoi Allen to win any race @ 6/1
Week 19 - Samcro to win any race @ 7/1
Week 20 - RequestABet Treble: Klassical Dream, Envoi Allen & Chacun Pour Soi all to win any race @ 200/1
Week 21 - Samcro to win any race @ 7/1
Week 22 - Malone Road to win any race @ 9/1
 
Hurricane fly said:
Week -2 - Envoi allen and Malone Road to win any race 100/1
Week -1 - Envoi allen and Malone Road to win any race 100/1
Week 1 - Samcro to win any race 7/1
Week 2 - Hudson-Odoi and Sterling both to have 1+ shot on target and France to win France 5+ corners and both teams 10+ booking points 3/1 (end of a long month so couldn’t use it on Chelts)
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4 - Cilaos Emery QMCC - 20/1
Week 5 - Fly Smart Supreme - 33/1
Week 6 - PSG to win and btts vs Montpellier 11/4 and City Island to win the stayers 14/1 - Lost
Week 7 - Jamie Vardy 2+ shots on target vs Man Utd 11:10 & Saldier Champion Hurdle 33/1 - Lost
Week 8 - Princess Vega Mares Novice - 25/1
Week 9 - Draconien Arkle - 40/1
Week 10 - Stupid Tennis acca - lost
Week 11 - England to beat Bangladesh, Brazil to beat Qatar and Next Destination to win the RSA - 30/1 treble
Week 12 - Too Darn Hot (St James Palace) and Saldier Champion Hurdle - 169/1
Week 13 - Stradivarius (Ascot Gold Cup) and Melon (JLT) - 41/1 double
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Week 14 - Samcro any race 7/1
Week 15 - Arsenal to win. (Won) / Santini to win the Ladbroke / Klassical Dream CH - 83/1
Week 16 - Ovie and India to win Love Island / Envoi Allen - Albert Bartlett - Lost
Week 17 - Fast Buck (won) / Envoi Allen - Albert Bartlett - 34/1
Week 18 - Huddersfield to beat Derby / Delta Work GC
Week 19 - Stradivarius to win Long Distance Cup / Dickie Diver RSA - 48/1
 
Week 23 added.
week 1. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 2. Santini Gold Cup @ 12/1.
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4. Envoi Allen & Malone Road any race 66/1
Week 5. Envoi Allen & Klassical Dream any race 66/1
Week 6. Carefully Selected any race @ 16/1
Week 7. Cilaos Emery Queen Mother Champion Chase @ 20/1
Week 8. Trixie. Espoir D'allen 4/1 (CH) Benie Des Dieux 4/1 (Mares) Paisley Park 3/1 (Stayers)
Week 9. Blackbow any race 14/1
Week 10. Chacun Pour Soi,Laurina,Klassical Dream,Honeysuckle. All to place any race 28/1
Week 11. Interconnected any race 16/1
Week 12. Next Destination any race 12/1
Week 13. Tornado Flyer 16/1 any race
Week 14. Tornado Flyer 33/1 JLT Nov chase.
Week 15. Glynn 33/1 any race.
Week 16. Jon Snow 12/1 any race.
Week 17. Mick Pastor 33/1 Triumph Hurdle
Week 18. Trixie. Envoi Allen 10/1 Bally,Champ 8/1 RSA,Kemboy 6/1 Gold Cup
Week 19. A Plus Tard 12/1 any race.
Week 20. Dallas Des Pictons any race 16/1
Week 21. Klassical Dream,Envoi Allen,Chacun Pour Soi All to win any race 200/1
Week 22. Zero Ten any race 16/1.
Week 23. Elixir de Nutz 16/1 any race.
 
Week -2 - Envoi allen and Malone Road to win any race 100/1
Week -1 - Envoi allen and Malone Road to win any race 100/1
Week 1 - Samcro to win any race 7/1
Week 2 - Hudson-Odoi and Sterling both to have 1+ shot on target and France to win France 5+ corners and both teams 10+ booking points 3/1 (end of a long month so couldn’t use it on Chelts)
Week 3. Paisley Park (stayers) Altior (QM) Klassical Dream (any) @ 100/1
Week 4 - Cilaos Emery QMCC - 20/1
Week 5 - Fly Smart Supreme - 33/1
Week 6 - PSG to win and btts vs Montpellier 11/4 and City Island to win the stayers 14/1 - Lost
Week 7 - Jamie Vardy 2+ shots on target vs Man Utd 11:10 & Saldier Champion Hurdle 33/1 - Lost
Week 8 - Princess Vega Mares Novice - 25/1
Week 9 - Draconien Arkle - 40/1
Week 10 - Stupid Tennis acca - lost
Week 11 - England to beat Bangladesh, Brazil to beat Qatar and Next Destination to win the RSA - 30/1 treble
Week 12 - Too Darn Hot (St James Palace) and Saldier Champion Hurdle - 169/1
Week 13 - Stradivarius (Ascot Gold Cup) and Melon (JLT) - 41/1 double
Week 14 - Samcro any race 7/1
Week 15 - Arsenal to win. (Won) / Santini to win the Ladbroke / Klassical Dream CH - 83/1
Week 16 - Ovie and India to win Love Island / Envoi Allen - Albert Bartlett - Lost
Week 17 - Fast Buck (won) / Envoi Allen - Albert Bartlett - 34/1
Week 18 - Huddersfield to beat Derby / Delta Work GC
Week 19 - Stradivarius to win Long Distance Cup / Dickie Diver RSA - 48/1
Week 20 a Crystal Ocean to win the Juddemote / Draconien to win the article - 84/1
 
I’ve been throwing my fivers on Minella Indo to win the 2021 Gold Cup at 33s.
I’m not proud of it but can’t get excited about many of the bigger priced options...
 
Istabraq said:
I’ve been throwing my fivers on Minella Indo to win the 2021 Gold Cup at 33s.
I’m not proud of it but can’t get excited about many of the bigger priced options...
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Must be a fairly strong fancy for the RSA this season for you then Ista?
 
jono said:
Must be a fairly strong fancy for the RSA this season for you then Ista?
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I think there’s plenty more improvement in him.
He showed very little before his Potato race win beating a very well fancied horse (pair pulling a long way clear), then proved that was no fluke at Punchestown.
I got the impression he was made for fences and the RSA has to be the right race, I just hope they are committed to chasing this season...
 
Yeah I think he could be a bit special (took me until Pucnhestown to really get onboard). I know they didn't quite confirm fences at the back end of last season but I'd be shocked if that's not the route he goes myself.
 
Still hoping saving them up is the way forward now they have no expiry date.

Certainly not looking at 2021 yet :very_drunk:

Still very keen on Minella Indo for next year as you two both are too
 
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