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Request-a-Bets (was 'Sky Bets' thread)

charlie said:
Looks good, but it really terrible and superb work from slybet. The Irish seldom come over for two of the races in question - APT is hardly gonna want bottomless ground at Haydock nor is HDB likely to give him that test. Allaho doesn't want 3m (I don't care how flat it is), and how many horses win back to back Gold Cups? Rubbish bet IMO
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I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on any of this (except that I believe APT will come over regardless of ground, he would probably just be looked after in the event it was terrible), which is why I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet, but glad others who think differently to us found me putting it up useful. Game of opinions after all!
 
Odin said:
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on any of this (except that I believe APT will come over regardless of ground, he would probably just be looked after in the event it was terrible), which is why I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet, but glad others who think differently to us found me putting it up useful. Game of opinions after all!
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I read my post back and realise I sound like a miserable horrible bastard! It's not rubbish nor is it terrible, just not for me is all. If it comes off you will have such a satisfying 'I told you so post' :excitement:
 
I nearly pulled the trigger on it myself but yeah, APT is terrible first time out and we all know that The Betfair chase at haydock is a specialised track specially if it comes up heavy

I do like Allaho for the KG, but big questions on whether he comes over. Still want a horse for this that has race at kempton before

no comment on the Gold Cup, my form is terrible but back to back wins is difficult - not impossible though

hmmmmmm….
 
charlie said:
I read my post back and realise I sound like a miserable horrible bastard! It's not rubbish nor is it terrible, just not for me is all. If it comes off you will have such a satisfying 'I told you so post' :excitement:
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I prefer the term 'forthright in his views' than miserable, horrible bastard haha. Everything was respectful as it seems to be with everyone around here so I'm all good with blunt and forthright comebacks. It's not my style to say I told you so, so don't worry about that either!
 
opatcho said:
I nearly pulled the trigger on it myself but yeah, APT is terrible first time out and we all know that The Betfair chase at haydock is a specialised track specially if it comes up heavy

I do like Allaho for the KG, but big questions on whether he comes over. Still want a horse for this that has race at kempton before

no comment on the Gold Cup, my form is terrible but back to back wins is difficult - not impossible though

hmmmmmm….
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As I say, I only brought it up because the odds were so good relative to the actual available odds. The nice thing about it is you could throw a free bet at it if you have one and wanted to. As I said in one of my original posts, the key reason I'm not covering it is because of my staking plan. It's a proper tempting price though and I'd argue sky haven't given too many of those over the last few months
 
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I just don't like the Allaho aspect. Suspect Stayer and a bias for LH tracks puts me off the bet.
 
This one's been around for a little while but thought it was worth mentioning given TSL has been mentioned in the OJA book I got today:

Flooring Porter (Stayers) and Three Stripe Life (Any Race) to win - 125/1

TSL is one of the 40 to follow, with two key quotes:
'Three Stripe Life is a lovely horse. He looked very impressive at Navan and everybody here is excited about him for the future. They all think he's a horse with real potential' Denise Foster pre-Cheltenham
'We think a good bit of him and he's done everything right at home. He was a big backward horse last year and we didn't get a run into him but we think he's a proper horse' Gordon Elliott after his bumper win at Navan

The arguments for/against Flooring Porter are well known by now I think
 
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archie said:
Since joining Willie:
LH tracks - 432341, best RPR H147/C178
RH tracks - 121612, best RPR H148/C176
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What you need to pick out from that though is 3 defeats RH at Punchestown against better class animals jumping LH each time. Easy to win against inferior horses RH. Don't get caught by the smokescreen Archie.
 
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Not sure what happened in the John Durkan when Allaho finished 6th!! As we couldn't see it.

The other 2 defeats were to the 2 highest rated chasers in training based on HRI (one a subsequent Gold Cup winner) and Chacun is pretty handy round Punchestown.
Chacun Pour Soi (FR)2012GKruscyna (FR)Policy MakerW.P. Mullins 176
Minella Indo2013GCarrigeen LilyBeat Hollow (GB)Henry de Bromhead 175
I guess my question is will he meet anything to that standard at Kempton, Clan Des Obeaux apart?
 
I have asked SkyBet to price up:

Eklat De Rire to win the Ladbrokes & GC. They obliged with 125/1 for anyone that’s interested :smile-new:
 
Topofthegame2021 said:
I’ve taken it with a small stake but yes I agree i was expecting more :02.47-tranquillity:
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No idea what his Hennessy price will be but as competitive handicap I'd be shocked if he was under 10s, and with 66s available for the Gold Cup the 125/1 is a piss take, the only upsides for you is that Sky will know this is an horrific price and your account should be nicely protected for a while.
If I had a 365 account I'd be tempted to play the Gold Cup single as well, I'm sure people have said they offer cash out so if he does sluice up in the Hennessy you can close the single for a profit and ride the special...
 
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Istabraq said:
No idea what his Hennessy price will be but as competitive handicap I'd be shocked if he was under 10s, and with 66s available for the Gold Cup the 125/1 is a piss take, the only upsides for you is that Sky will know this is an horrific price and your account should be nicely protected for a while.
If I had a 365 account I'd be tempted to play the Gold Cup single as well, I'm sure people have said they offer cash out so if he does sluice up in the Hennessy you can close the single for a profit and ride the special...
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He actually isn’t priced up in it yet. He’d probably be around 20’s in my book for it. Yes, I’ve been restricted on a couple of accouts lately so if I can keep Sky it’ll be good for the RABs!
 
What makes you think he's Hennessy bound ? I don't remember HDB ever running one in it.
 
…Eklat de Rire & Three Stripes Life to win a/r @ 200-1 appears better than individual price double with Sky.
 
Eggs said:
…Eklat de Rire & Three Stripes Life to win a/r @ 200-1 appears better than individual price double with Sky.
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Morning mate, I'd be tempted to do two doubles instead; EDR (GC) with TSL in both Ballymore and AB at bigger prices. He might turn up in the Martin Pipe though I suppose:ambivalence:

Big game for us today Eggs. A must win:boxing:
 
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