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You have to think Mighty Park will be Willie's number 1 in the Supreme. Feels that way to me anyhow.
 
Lobos said:
You have to think Mighty Park will be Willie's number 1 in the Supreme. Feels that way to me anyhow.
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I doubt it.
Although they may shoe horn him in I suppose.
 
The deviluno in the bartlett and the horse he beat a couple of runs ago, skylight hustle in the turners. The third in that race boosted the form earlier so a little dabble on that, i reckon.
 
Lobos said:
Didn't look that way to me at Fairyhouse. May depend on what his horses do at DRF 2miler but JP will want a good shot at the Supreme.
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Why will he want a good shot at the supreme over turners?

He didn't last year and won the Turner's with his best novice
 
Runragged said:
If Mullins wins the Tattersalls at the DRF then the winner will go Supreme unless something shines in the Sheila Bourke. The two times he has won the race since it's been 2m and gone Baring Bingham he has still had the Supreme favourite. Tullyhill was Fav after romping home in the Sheila Bourke with Ballyburn going and winning the BB whilst Dysart Dynamo had easily won the Moscow Flyer before joint fav with Con Hill with Tattersalls winner Sir Gerhard stepping up in trip (and also winning).
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He sends his best novice to the easier race. Thats the only way I look at it. Sir Gerhard avoided Conn Hill and Ballyburn ran in a turners against 2 English no hopers and 5 horses from Closutton.

If he ends up with the fav in the other race then fair enough. But naturally they will be close to fav as it Mullins/Townend combo. Horse will have ran to avoid his best novice all season eg. Tullyhill hadn't ran against ballyburn and Dysart Dynamo hadn't ran against Sir gerhard, and they will have a grade 1 to their name from 1 of the races you mentioned above
 
….thought there was still a little juice in prices of 3 winners yesterday, so have had a little interest in the Punchestown winners related multiples. Note post race comments;

The Passing Wife (16-1 Coral Cup); Cromwell said: “We maybe we over-faced him the last day going to the Grade One, but we are back on track. It’s nice to win a maiden with him and he’s qualified for the handicaps in Cheltenham. “We’ll freshen him up and probably go for either the Martin Pipe or the Coral Cup as he’d want a trip.”

Spinningayarn (25-1 Albert Bartlett); Jack Kennedy, who said: “He looks to be going in the right direction. It was fairly straightforward today – he jumped and has done it well. “He’ll be suited by going further and also getting a lead would probably help him as well. Hopefully there is more to come from him.”

Leader D’allier (25-1 Supreme); Townend said: “Leader d’Allier had good bumper form in France and we were a bit disappointed with him in Leopardstown, but he seems to have stepped forward from that run. “A lot of ours are stepping forward from Christmas. I liked the way he settled and he took a good while to pull up. He jumped brilliant the whole way and with a run under his belt we were able to use that a bit more today.’

Maybe a doubt about Passing Wife’s target but I did highlight him at 40-1 for Coral Cup a few days ago so I’m taking a risk on him going there. I’d be more certain of the other two so;

Leader (Sup)/Spinning (AB) e/w boosted 795-1 double
Leader (Sup)/TPW (Coral)/Spinning (AB) e/w Trixie (9,281-1 treble)
 
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OffTheBridle said:
He sends his best novice to the easier race. Thats the only way I look at it. Sir Gerhard avoided Conn Hill and Ballyburn ran in a turners against 2 English no hopers and 5 horses from Closutton.

If he ends up with the fav in the other race then fair enough. But naturally they will be close to fav as it Mullins/Townend combo. Horse will have ran to avoid his best novice all season eg. Tullyhill hadn't ran against ballyburn and Dysart Dynamo hadn't ran against Sir gerhard, and they will have a grade 1 to their name from 1 of the races you mentioned above
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Yea, with the Supreme or Turners the theory 'he sends them to the race they've got the best chance of winning' makes sense, as the races are fairly equal in standing.

And the Turners looks the much easier race this year.

JP will make the decision on Mighty Park but I suspect he'll go Turners as well.
 
OffTheBridle said:
He sends his best novice to the easier race. Thats the only way I look at it. Sir Gerhard avoided Conn Hill and Ballyburn ran in a turners against 2 English no hopers and 5 horses from Closutton.

If he ends up with the fav in the other race then fair enough. But naturally they will be close to fav as it Mullins/Townend combo. Horse will have ran to avoid his best novice all season eg. Tullyhill hadn't ran against ballyburn and Dysart Dynamo hadn't ran against Sir gerhard, and they will have a grade 1 to their name from 1 of the races you mentioned above
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Avoiding Con Hill is hindsight. We had no idea just how good he was having won a couple of novice hurdles including a heavy ground Tolworth. From what I remember Dysart Dynamo was all about speed and would never have settled in a Baring Bingham so had no choice but to go Supreme. Sir Gerhard was a much more relaxed individual and as his two best novices it was an easy decision.

Ballyburn had been impressive when winning his maiden over 2m 4f having been beat on debut over 2m. Tullyhill had looked quick in winning at Punchestown last time over 2m but had previously been beat over 2m 6f in a maiden. They also had Mystical Power to go for the Supreme rather than run against Ballyburn. Slade Steel who had been beaten by Ballyburn was always going to the opposite race. Mullins still threw in plenty of chances against Ballyburn and had the first five home of just seven runners.

I still think it is about the right balance for the yard and their best chance of winning both races as opposed to they put their best horse in the easiest race. Arguably that could be hindsight also as other trainers may look to avoid Mullins best novice ala Slade Steel in the above explanation. His yard looks to lack a bit of proven class at the moment though there is still time with a couple of races to come. Things will hopefully become a lot clearer in a week or two!
 
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Runragged said:
Avoiding Con Hill is hindsight. We had no idea just how good he was having won a couple of novice hurdles including a heavy ground Tolworth. From what I remember Dysart Dynamo was all about speed and would never have settled in a Baring Bingham so had no choice but to go Supreme. Sir Gerhard was a much more relaxed individual and as his two best novices it was an easy decision.

Ballyburn had been impressive when winning his maiden over 2m 4f having been beat on debut over 2m. Tullyhill had looked quick in winning at Punchestown last time over 2m but had previously been beat over 2m 6f in a maiden. They also had Mystical Power to go for the Supreme rather than run against Ballyburn. Slade Steel who had been beaten by Ballyburn was always going to the opposite race. Mullins still threw in plenty of chances against Ballyburn and had the first five home of just seven runners.

I still think it is about the right balance for the yard and their best chance of winning both races as opposed to they put their best horse in the easiest race. Arguably that could be hindsight also as other trainers may look to avoid Mullins best novice ala Slade Steel in the above explanation. His yard looks to lack a bit of proven class at the moment though there is still time with a couple of races to come. Things will hopefully become a lot clearer in a week or two!
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They sent Dysart off JF against Con Hill too - they definitely fancied him that day. He wasn't a top level horse unfortunately, but I loved that headcase
 
My gut feel right now.. is that Willie will one decent horse and that will go to the Turners

Both Henderson and Elliott appear to have good horses in Old Park Star and El Carios in th supreme.

I don’t think Willie has a top class 2 mile novice, but i do think he has a decent on with King Rasko, but I see him as being more optimial in the Turners - I can see him running a big race this weekend, especially over more testing conditions

We will have to see, but that’s where my heads at so far
 
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Re: Mighty Park, I just can’t get a handle on him?
Need to see him again against stronger opposition

This does feel like a Con Hill / Shishkin year to me. Not been massively impressed by the Irish and don’t think much will come out of the DRF this weekend

OPS to win?
 
opatcho said:
Re: Mighty Park, I just can’t get a handle on him?
Need to see him again against stronger opposition

This does feel like a Con Hill / Shishkin year to me. Not been massively impressed by the Irish and don’t think much will come out of the DRF this weekend

OPS to win?
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Mighty Park has 'booked his ticket to cheltenham' 14s & 12s to find out which race.

Like him in the turners, OPS looks solid and we know alot more about him but 14s big enough to hedge races.
 
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CJW said:
Mighty Park has 'booked his ticket to cheltenham' 14s & 12s to find out which race.

Like him in the turners, OPS looks solid and we know alot more about him but 14s big enough to hedge races.
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Mullins loves the old, run them in the race they can win

He will surely think beating the nicholls horse in the turners an easier task than beating OPS

So his best novice will go to the turners

Just a question of whether that is mighty park
 
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Also suits the 'Park' related bet. Old Park Star & Mighty Park double 😂
 
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Sober the forgotten horse ??
 
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