Related Bets (ideas)

[Carnage at Taunton]

8 rides left for Paul Townend in this years festival

258444/1 with 888sport..... EW Goliath

Thursday
Facile Vega - massive chance to beat Grey Dawning, who would have been lapped over hurdles so will he just outclass?
Sir Gerhard - supported into 2nd fav. Elliott short priced fav currently on zero winners :indecisiveness:
Jade De Grugy - same as above!
Friday
Storm Heart - massive question mark over Sir Gino, better than result at DRF?
Absurde - got to respect the pick of rides when Willie has so many
Readin Tommy Wrong - Paul's forced this horse uip in trip and decided to ride him when Dancing City and High Class Hero (3 of top 4 in betting) - strong!
Galopin Des Champs - :nevreness:
Allegorie De Vassy - bounced back last time, question marks of Dinoblue stamina and Townend will be on a high after winning his last 7 races....

This should be fun!!
I shall give it a go Kev
Cheers

 

[Odin]

Last one before bed....

Cuthbert Dibble has been well supported into 7/1 .... you can get 11/2 (4 places - 1/4 the odds) without Cleatus Poolaw & Gaoth Chuil)

Got beaten by Crambo when 4/1fav against him in March last year. Won both starts this year, and you can get 44.5/1 for them both as Crambo has drifted to 6/1:abnormal:

Yesterday it's non-Cheltenham related but as Cuthbert Dibble was 8/1 I threw a double with him and Lord Snootie (who he beat last time by 1/2 length) at Uttoxeter on Saturday. They were 8s and 7s at the time so there may be no value now but it's a lovely related double given the support for Dibble

 

[Min The Merciless]

Kevloaf

Trying out your "Jack's Back" approach for Day 4 with an EW Yankee

King of Kingsfield - 5/1
Search for Glory w/o RTW and Dancing City - 16/1
Gerri Colombe w/o GDC and Fast or Slow - 11/4
Riviera D'etel w/o Dinoblue and AdV - 11/2

2485.25/1 with 365



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[BalthazarKing]

Can't remember who put up the related slade steel supreme & ballyburn gallagher double 100/1 following DRF but forgot to pay homage to this call as at the time talk was more of ballyburn going supreme. Pays to do related doubles. Thanks whoever it was that highlighted it!

 

[Lobos]

Can't remember who put up the related slade steel supreme & ballyburn gallagher double 100/1 following DRF but forgot to pay homage to this call as at the time talk was more of ballyburn going supreme. Pays to do related doubles. Thanks whoever it was that highlighted it!

Pretty sure it was Kev. Went in on the same double later than most but still paid a proper whack. Had SS at 25's for the Ballymore so was nice to make up for it. A top shout indeed.

 

[Quevega]

Pretty sure it was Kev. Went in on the same double later than most but still paid a proper whack. Had SS at 25's for the Ballymore so was nice to make up for it. A top shout indeed.

It was Ruby Walsh

 

[Lobos]

It was Ruby Walsh

Well, sort of. He thought it would go the other way round though.

 

[Exar Essay]

It was Henry De Bromhead. “We’ll go wherever your man doesn’t”.

 

[TigerRolllllll]

It was Henry De Bromhead. “We’ll go wherever your man doesn’t”.

I’ve already done same double for next year

 

[Kevloaf]

It was Henry De Bromhead. “We’ll go wherever your man doesn’t”.

I didn't realise he had an account on here?! :highly_amused:

When interviewed after Slade Steel's 2nd, HdB said they might just go the opposite of whatever Ballyburn does. How much of that was tongue in cheek, and how much he meant, who knows....

But, if Ballyburn goes for the Baring Bingham, which I think we can all appreciate is still an option, should the double for the pair be:

93/1 (boosted) from 83/1

Slade Steel - Supreme (20/1)
Ballyburn - Baring Bingham (3/1)


I think Slade Steel's 2nd is perfectly creditable. Without Ballyburn in the field we're looking at Mystical Power to beat and Firefox....

If Slade Steel did win (and knowing he stays further certainly isn't a negative at Cheltenham), then Ballyburn would get absolutely smashed up for the next day, and be odds on.

I think it's well worth covering. The NRNB best price is 37/1 which may also appeal a bit for the more cautious.



The other way around is a best priced 16.88/1 or 12.5/1 NRNB

BalthazarKing

I'm glad I posted if only for you..... I even said where it was from, how dare anyone pass on a bit of thanks :smiley_simmons:

 

[Lobos]

I Am Maximus and He Is French.......110/1

 

[parimutuel]

PANDAGATE & PANDA BOY @139/1 e/w anda:

Meydan 1.50 & GN

 

[Benjy23]

Tactical Move and Nick Rocket at Fairyhouse...

 

[Quevega]

Spoke a few weeks back about the bumper Port Joulain won and the outside chance that Henry’s horse in second that day Good n Kind could also be useful

He might get beat today and not be good enough but a related double play n him today and goodnkind for supreme at 40-1 b365 (double works out around 112-1) small stakes isn’t the daftest bet.

far too long to go and very speculative for sure.

even if not interested in the double if he wins and wins well the 40-1 might linger.

Stab in dark for bit of fun really.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Spoke a few weeks back about the bumper Port Joulain won and the outside chance that Henry’s horse in second that day Good n Kind could also be useful

He might get beat today and not be good enough but a related double play n him today and goodnkind for supreme at 40-1 b365 (double works out around 112-1) small stakes isn’t the daftest bet.

far too long to go and very speculative for sure.

even if not interested in the double if he wins and wins well the 40-1 might linger.

Stab in dark for bit of fun really.

I'll stick my neck out and say Good N Kind looks like a proper stayer. I'd be shocked if he even turned up in a Supreme, let alone be competitive in it.

 

[Quevega]

I'll stick my neck out and say Good N Kind looks like a proper stayer. I'd be shocked if he even turned up in a Supreme, let alone be competitive in it.

Had a good look at the breeding and would disagree on the stayer element
wouldn’t disagree on how good he is though as we’ve got little to go on.

 

[Quevega]

I’d have said the same about slade steel also and his breeding is poor and has been tested similarly
I think he might get a similar campaign and so just depends on if he’s as good over time. Think they like him though.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Had a good look at the breeding and would disagree on the stayer element
wouldn’t disagree on how good he is though as we’ve got little to go on.

We have do have track and point to point evidence to go on. His bumper which we'd have all seen, he's definitely one paced on the run in and just stays on resolutely once the pace quickened turning for home. Port Joulain travelled all over him and put him away fairly easily.

He won his point from the front and made it a real stamina test on heavy ground at a galloping track. Only 4 of 9 finished that day due to the conditions. Even the commentator noted him as being "a proper winter stayer". Post race notes "He should ultimately develop into a nice prospect over distances in the region of two miles six furlongs to three miles on the racetrack"

There's not a whole lot to go on in terms of pedigree but I'd say Arctic Cosmos is getting more stayers that sharper horses in general.

 

[Quevega]

We have do have track and point to point evidence to go on. His bumper which we'd have all seen, he's definitely one paced on the run in and just stays on resolutely once the pace quickened turning for home. Port Joulain travelled all over him and put him away fairly easily.

He won his point from the front and made it a real stamina test on heavy ground at a galloping track. Only 4 of 9 finished that day due to the conditions. Even the commentator noted him as being "a proper winter stayer". Post race notes "He should ultimately develop into a nice prospect over distances in the region of two miles six furlongs to three miles on the racetrack"

There's not a whole lot to go on in terms of pedigree but I'd say Arctic Cosmos is getting more stayers that sharper horses in general.

Not a fan of using points to make decisions on potential future novice hurdles

Id be loathe to form too strong an opinion also on the one bumper run.

The race ran this time last year is a perfect example of why. Slade steel looked one paced vs ball burn and dancing city.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Not a fan of using points to make decisions on potential future novice hurdles

Id be loathe to form too strong an opinion also on the one bumper run.

The race ran this time last year is a perfect example of why. Slade steel looked one paced vs ball burn and dancing city.

That’s fair. To each their own.