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[Lobos]

I wouldn't say that re Benie though as the discrepancy between her mares price and chase price (B365 5/1 and 7/1) is no way near as stark as the price differential on Honeysuckle for the Mares/Champion.

My OP was trying to give a sense of market perspective Lobos because I know you want it to happen, but we know quite a lot about her and she's 16/1 for the Champion and 7/2 for the Mares. IMO that says two things. One, the bookies think she's far more likely to go mares and two, the boookies are happy offering 16/1 because her form (at the moment) is clearly better over 2m4f than 2m. Neither are ringing endorsements of a CH campaign, but of course anything could change and she could prove me wrong and do wonderful things in the Irish Champion Hurdle, so we'll see.

I don't want it to happen though. I've backed Honey TWAR and for the Mares Hurdle and in doubles. I've got plenty happening with Epatante as well. I just think it will happen so I've now covered her in the Churdle as well. I'll end up with two good darts, probably the two best darts, at the Champion Hurdle but I'd rather have two winners !

 

[Hardy Eustace]

Morning campers,

This won't be for everyone and given the uncertainty around 2 of the 3 targets should NOT be used with anything other than free bets but how do you like these apples...

The ballymore 1-2-3 looks one of the strongest pieces of form on offer from the festival so why not do a cheeky treble or trixie on...

1) EA (Marsh)
2) Easywork (RSA)
3) The Big Getaway (NHC)

The treble pays 1773.5/1 with Skybet. Bigger prices may be available but sky offer the weekly freebet so that was the logical place to start.

Worth a free bet?

 

[Kevloaf]

Morning campers,

This won't be for everyone and given the uncertainty around 2 of the 3 targets should NOT be used with anything other than free bets but how do you like these apples...

The ballymore 1-2-3 looks one of the strongest pieces of form on offer from the festival so why not do a cheeky treble or trixie on...

1) EA (Marsh)
2) Easywork (RSA)
3) The Big Getaway (NHC)

The treble pays 1773.5/1 with Skybet. Bigger prices may be available but sky offer the weekly freebet so that was the logical place to start.

Worth a free bet?

Yep, a good one.

EA with Easywork has been mentioned already and I'm sure EA with The Big Getaway (RSA) will also be in some people's plans.....

Free bet makes sense though, could feasibly happen without too much needing to click into place.

 

[Ballyfitz]

Been thinking about perming the first four in the Albert Bartlett for a while - and added today as two of them are running and will likely be cut should they win (definitely Fury Road anyway).

Added 4x0.25pt doubles - Monkfish 10/1 / Latest Exhibition 10/1 (RSA) with Thyme Hill 11/1 / Fury Road 20/1 (Stayers).

Done as separate bets to enable individual “lines” to be cashed out.

 

[Kevloaf]

Been thinking about perming the first four in the Albert Bartlett for a while - and added today as two of them are running and will likely be cut should they win (definitely Fury Road anyway).

Added 4x0.25pt doubles - Monkfish 10/1 / Latest Exhibition 10/1 (RSA) with Thyme Hill 11/1 / Fury Road 20/1 (Stayers).

Done as separate bets to enable individual “lines” to be cashed out.

Copied this, I think I've already done some of them somewhere but doing it before two of them run today at odds on makes sense.

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Obvious one from today.....Ferny (Sup), Bob (Bally)

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Obvious one from today.....Ferny (Sup), Bob (Bally)

Yep, done this one straight after the race :encouragement:

 

[Kevloaf]

Just added the Shewearsitwell / Gauloise Supreme/Mares Novice double at 389/1. The related bit being that if SWIW beats the boys, Mullins would only divert her from the Mares Novice if he had a ready made replacement. It's a bit far fetched I think but I've backed it anyway because I said it. :triumphant:


Just thinking about the Royal Bond this weekend, what about Ballyadam with Shewearsitwell?



If Ballyadam wins, or they finish very close then surely it's unlikely Mullins opts for the tougher race. If they finish close, do both enhance there claims?

What about backing Ballyadam to win the Royal Bond with Shewearsitwell in the Mares Novice.... if he beats her, surely she has no chance of going Supreme, however she may enhance her claims still and even if "well beaten" we don't know for sure that isn't still good enough for this mares division?

Or, what about Shewearsitwell for the Royal Bond with Ballyadam Supreme? Nah hat doesn't have any logic to it.


I'm going to bed, Spectre - feel free to work any angles for us :highly_amused:

 

[Spectre]

I’ve done the SWIW Supreme / Gauloise MNH ew double. I like it. I think the other one to do is Ballyadam Supreme / SWIW MNH double. I think that’s the way SWIW is targeted based on the result, and Ballyadam’s chances of winning the Supreme are diminished if he’s turned over by her. If he beats her she goes to the MNH and she’s still the best novice mare we’ve seen so far. Not just that, she’s already set a very high bar for the mares to beat, including Gauloise.

 

[Nortons who]

I am still of the opinion that Ballyadam is more likely to go for the Ballymore but if Shewearsitwell was to beat Ballyadam in the Royal Bond, then chances are that WM will know only too well the comparative form line with Ferny Hollow. If so does he advise CP to send FH to the Ballymore for a clearer run at that and send Ballyadam to the Supreme. So maybe a related double worth considering is SWIW Supreme / Ferny Hollow Ballymore at 250-1 plus (admittedly unlikely but if SWIW proves to be that good, yiu never know).

 

[FinalFurlong91]

This is Willie

SWIW will run in the mares race even if she beats ballyadam as it'll be easier to win

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Anyone not done yet, still prob worth Monkfish with Thyme Hill and Fury Road doubles

Did while ago with Latest Exhibition ones too.....less sure about those now, but prices now nice

Looks like another good potato race

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Anyone not done yet, still prob worth Monkfish with Thyme Hill and Fury Road doubles

Did while ago with Latest Exhibition ones too.....less sure about those now, but prices now nice

Looks like another good potato race

I can't remember who put up those cross doubles (might have been Ista) but I'm glad they put it up.

All eyes on Monkfish tomorrow at 11.30 - he's a key horse in my ante post multiples.

 

[Kevloaf]

Anyone not done yet, still prob worth Monkfish with Thyme Hill and Fury Road doubles

Did while ago with Latest Exhibition ones too.....less sure about those now, but prices now nice

Looks like another good potato race

Given how close Latest Exhibition finished I definitely wouldn't ignore him if I was doing these again either.

 

[Kevloaf]

Total of 5 points on a Ricci Yankee (manually done)

4664/1

Five O'Clock (NH Chase) 33/1
Monkfish (RSA) 7/2
Chacun Pour Soi (QMCC) 9/2
Benie Des Dieux (10/1)



WH

 

[TigerRolllllll]

I do loads of these and this maybe bit long for many

just added Henry double for Ballymore / Spuds with Bob O and Holymacapony .....440-1 best

 

[Kevloaf]

I do loads of these and this maybe bit long for many

just added Henry double for Ballymore / Spuds with Bob O and Holymacapony .....440-1 best

Not sure you can have a bet that's got odds that are "too long"

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Not sure you can have a bet that's got odds that are "too long"

.....prob right......but over last couple years have done so well from doubles, I’m increasing more and more....tho tiny bets

My theory is that ante post value x2 is value multiplied.....I also like to use it to get horses into the book running off longer-priced ones.....and accept a dead pool

And anywhere there is a link i go for.....don’t need many in and many seem unlikely at time.....Imperial Aura / Betts last year was v long when added, but very nice on day

I know u love too.....but would encourage others to try a few.....odd pound or two and using frees, etc

 

[Kevloaf]

Will just post it here for the records when we look back but PP pushing Benie Des Dieux out to biggest priced in the Mares Hurdle and shortest price (fav) for the Mares Chase prompted a lot of us to back:


48.5/1 double - Honeysuckle (7/2) and Benie Des Dieux (10/1)
65/1 double - Concertista (5/1) and Benie Des Dieux (10/1)




This is exactly the kind of bet this thread was started for.

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Will just post it here for the records when we look back but PP pushing Benie Des Dieux out to biggest priced in the Mares Hurdle and shortest price (fav) for the Mares Chase prompted a lot of us to back:


48.5/1 double - Honeysuckle (7/2) and Benie Des Dieux (10/1)
65/1 double - Concertista (5/1) and Benie Des Dieux (10/1)




This is exactly the kind of bet this thread was started for.

Absolutely 100% .....these are the bets that can make a good week so much better