Related Bets (ideas)

[Quevega]

NRNB ..... 29/1 e/w

Gaelic Warrior (Arkle)
Facile Vega (Turners)

Likely to be money back, but if Gaelic Warrior beats Marine Nationale, it's the only way Gaelic Warrior goes Arkle, and if Gaelic Warrior does go to the Arkle, almost certainly puts Facile Vega in to the Turners?


Worst case scenario is you have 7/1 about Facile Vega against GW in the Turners I suppose




It's 98/1 without the NRNB element



I don't mind it each way NRNB at 29/1 though, I think they'd both place with big win shouts

Thought you did this before xmas like me ? + Marine & Gaelic.
Sure it was discussed somewhere.
I did anyhow.:loyal:

 

[Kevloaf]

Thought you did this before xmas like me ? + Marine & Gaelic.
Sure it was discussed somewhere.
I did anyhow.:loyal:

I wouldn't have done it without NRNB and I don't like Gaelic particularly so I didn't do it even if I discussed it.... I could well have put it up in here for all I know :biggrin-new:

I have done the 29/1 NRNB above though, mainly as covering a worst case scenario for my own spot for GW and the Arkle.

 

[Quevega]

I wouldn't have done it without NRNB and I don't like Gaelic particularly so I didn't do it even if I discussed it.... I could well have put it up in here for all I know :biggrin-new:

I have done the 29/1 NRNB above though, mainly as covering a worst case scenario for my own spot for GW and the Arkle.

I mentioned Facile and Gaelic reverse double in November. And did it. 151-1 & 18-1
You said you liked it but thought it best to do the Marine arkle Gaelic turners as well :encouragement:

Willie will probably run in the longer race anyway this weekend and scupper the value losers once and for all :highly_amused:

 

[Kevloaf]

I mentioned Facile and Gaelic reverse double in November. And did it. 151-1 & 18-1
You said you liked it but thought it best to do the Marine arkle Gaelic turners as well :encouragement:

Willie will probably run in the longer race anyway this weekend and scupper the value losers once and for all :highly_amused:

Yeah I've got Marine / Gaelic and Facile / Gaelic (GW Turners in both) so must have been then

Didn't do the reverse, still don't think it'll happen anyway as MN wins all so I am just wasting my own time :glee:

 

[Quevega]

Yeah I've got Marine / Gaelic and Facile / Gaelic (GW Turners in both) so must have been then

Didn't do the reverse, still don't think it'll happen anyway as MN wins all so I am just wasting my own time :glee:

I think Gaelic is the only horse that would get near Marine.
Just not sure that will be enough going that way around.
Still all got to jump though.
For the competition I hope Facile runs well.

 

[TigerRolllllll]

I’d act Gaelic Warrior & Fact to File

if GW does switch, then F2F could go Turners?

like a few Mullins bingo ones

 

[TigerRolllllll]

If Willie wants to win all chases then best shot prob

Arkle - GW
NHC - Embassy
Br - Grange
Tu - F2F

 

[Quevega]

I’d act Gaelic Warrior & Fact to File

if GW does switch, then F2F could go Turners?

like a few Mullins bingo ones

did that other week also.
still 3-1 for saturdays race so that with the 5-1 NRNB Fact to File turners is not bad either.

 

[Kevloaf]

I’d act Gaelic Warrior & Fact to File

if GW does switch, then F2F could go Turners?

like a few Mullins bingo ones

Now that one I do already have in the book too

Quevega - cba looking back but assume was a similar time

 

[Quevega]

Now that one I do already have in the book too

Quevega - cba looking back but assume was a similar time

More recent that one.

The French horse one was christmas time, still think they might pop up if Gaelic goes arkle. "Missed a week in January due to snow nonsense" - Talk about talking your job up.

"He slept in an hour other day so we'll be missing the race unfortunately" each:

 

[TigerRolllllll]

Thought to might be trying to list out as many of the key potential scenarios that might play out at DRF in key races and potential opportunities.....as they are mostly doubles, then this seemed the thread

One i have been looking at so far in card order....

1. Do any of the 4 year olds go to Boodles?....Kala, Kargese, Karafon all could

2. Already much discussed, but what if GW beats Marine Nationale? He could go Arkle, with Facil and/or F2F going Turners

3. What is GDC thrashes Fast.....would Fast switch to Ryanair, where he could have a fav chance?

4. What if one of Grange or F2F thrashes other? Could one go Turners and one Browns

5. What is Facile is brilliant upped in trip.....likely goes Turners, but not impossible he goes Browns

6. If Ballyburn wins as we expect, many good ones may go Ballymore. Could be some great doubles opps

7. If Dinoblue beats El Fab (last run RPRs tie them, so not totally mad), then she must go QM. Double opportunities with Mares & potential Jonbon move

8. Impaire, or even Bob (come on !!), could beat State Man.....prob sees winner go CH too. But the gap on ratings not that greaet

9. If more likely State man win again, the surely Impaire goes Stayers (doubles?)


Im sure there are a few more......but hope that helps with bit of a checklist re potential gaps it might create in books

 

[Dandrew99]

Thought to might be trying to list out as many of the key potential scenarios that might play out at DRF in key races and potential opportunities.....as they are mostly doubles, then this seemed the thread

One i have been looking at so far in card order....

1. Do any of the 4 year olds go to Boodles?....Kala, Kargese, Karafon all could

2. Already much discussed, but what if GW beats Marine Nationale? He could go Arkle, with Facil and/or F2F going Turners

3. What is GDC thrashes Fast.....would Fast switch to Ryanair, where he could have a fav chance?

4. What if one of Grange or F2F thrashes other? Could one go Turners and one Browns

5. What is Facile is brilliant upped in trip.....likely goes Turners, but not impossible he goes Browns

6. If Ballyburn wins as we expect, many good ones may go Ballymore. Could be some great doubles opps

7. If Dinoblue beats El Fab (last run RPRs tie them, so not totally mad), then she must go QM. Double opportunities with Mares & potential Jonbon move

8. Impaire, or even Bob (come on !!), could beat State Man.....prob sees winner go CH too. But the gap on ratings not that greaet

9. If more likely State man win again, the surely Impaire goes Stayers (doubles?)


Im sure there are a few more......but hope that helps with bit of a checklist re potential gaps it might create in books

Pretty much anything you fancy to beat Ballyburn would go to favourite in the Supreme and all but ensure Ballyburn goes Ballymore... I'll probably cover something like this depending on decs tomorrow.

I've personally played GW (Arkle) and FTF (Turners), FTF (Turners) and Grangeclare (BA), FTF (BA) Grangeclare (NHC) so far in the novice chasers.

 

[Lobos]

I reckon Mystical Power will still be supreme fav after the DRF whatever the result of the 2m race. IMO Ballyburn will go Ballymore even if he wins. Sir Gino won't be budged at the head of the Triumph market. I'm coming round to the idea that Gaelic wins the Irish Arkle and will go to the English version only to be beaten by stablemate Hunters Yarn :smiley_simmons:. That'll leave the Turners to FTF and open the BANC up for SAF to win with Embassy Gardens running away with the NHC..................Simples:emptiness:

 

[Dandrew99]

I reckon Mystical Power will still be supreme fav after the DRF whatever the result of the 2m race. IMO Ballyburn will go Ballymore even if he wins. Sir Gino won't be budged at the head of the Triumph market. I'm coming round to the idea that Gaelic wins the Irish Arkle and will go to the English version only to be beaten by stablemate Hunters Yarn :smiley_simmons:. That'll leave the Turners to FTF and open the BANC up for SAF to win with Embassy Gardens running away with the NHC..................Simples:emptiness:

Depends on the nature of the defeat if Ballyburn were to lose I suppose. If he totally flops then yeah MP will probably be favourite. If something beats Ballyburn on merit then it could be interesting... Would guess whatever wins will have a higher RPR than 144 though.

 

[darlojim]

Im very much in the F2f turners camp even though theres been plenty of sustained money for the BANC. A win in the Flogas would imo cement his position in the Turners so I think the f2f turners/GCW Banc is a solid double to have. Its not unfeasible to think that them 2 are clear of the pack at the weekend

 

[Benjy23]

You've inspired me to put on a Dinoblue (CC), Jonbon (Ryanair) and Brides Hill (Mares Chase) NRNB treble. Which I think is likely to end as a Brides Hill single but I'm alright with that, and could be a good time for that anyway...

 

[Lobos]

When are the Final Declarations for the DRF ??

 

[Craigy14]

When are the Final Declarations for the DRF ??

Be Thursday and Friday mate. Normally around half 10-11 for Irish decs.

 

[Lobos]

Be Thursday and Friday mate. Normally around half 10-11 for Irish decs.

Many thanks.

Need to do some proper head scratching today then and get any pre DRF Festival bets on before they are revealed.

Can envisaged some big price cuts...........or not.

 

[Kevloaf]

Not even gone past the fav in the first race for the DRF before finding a couple of related doubles I like....


Caldwell Potter (BB) / Predators Gold (AB) at 265/1 (boosted with Lads) which would be the related formline - 1 pt e/w

Gold Dancer (BB) / Predators Gold (AB)at 337/1 NRNB - for Gigginstown - bought and sent to Willie - 1 pt e/w


The way PP have priced Predators Gold NRNB at 7/1 for the AB and me seeing the race as more a Bartlett Trial than a Baring Bingham trial has me quite happy with both of these. Obviously Predators Gold has to go and win will on Saturday to make them live but I think both angles are perfectly valid at the prices they are. Who knows, maybe Gigginstown will buy Caldwell Potter :glee:
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Also thinknig about if Loughglynn wins at the weekend, he goes AB fav and Stellar Story who would have been beaten gets his 4th run and has his form franked for the Martin Pipe (a bit of a leap here I know)

It's 168/1 NRNB though

Loughglynn (AB) / Stellar Story (MP) 168/1 NRNB