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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2019

Is Politilogue a wild price at 25/1 NRNB?

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Cheltenham of course.


1. Altior in
2. Min or Footpad
3. Sceau Royal (just been beaten by a novice hurdler)
4. Politilogue

If Lady Buttons elsewhere - he would be 4th fav? at 25/1?


He's at least got form with Min ... albeit over further...




This is a weak case, I know... but does anyone see it? I've long been on the opinion Politilogue is better over 2 miles and disagreed that he should be stepping up....


The course form is holding me back....MORE than the fact he prob doesn't run haha
 
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Eggs said:
....Ordinary World and Lady Buttons e/w at big prices for me and will do the Exacta on the day. Hope the great horse comes home safe and sound.
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I wish Phil Kirby would just confirm a target. This seems like a no brainer to me, trip is much more suitable as are fences.
 
Kevloaf said:
Is Politilogue a wild price at 25/1 NRNB?

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Cheltenham of course.


1. Altior in
2. Min or Footpad
3. Sceau Royal (just been beaten by a novice hurdler)
4. Politilogue

If Lady Buttons elsewhere - he would be 4th fav? at 25/1?


He's at least got form with Min ... albeit over further...




This is a weak case, I know... but does anyone see it? I've long been on the opinion Politilogue is better over 2 miles and disagreed that he should be stepping up....


The course form is holding me back....MORE than the fact he prob doesn't run haha
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Step away from the bet button Kev
 
Any love for st calvados in this....I dont think he likes getting taken on for the lead and if UDS goes Ryan air I can’t see another front runner. Hopefully he’ll be able to pop away in front and get into a nice rhythm, 14/1 without Altior?
 
sprintersacren said:
Any love for st calvados in this....I dont think he likes getting taken on for the lead and if UDS goes Ryan air I can’t see another front runner. Hopefully he’ll be able to pop away in front and get into a nice rhythm, 14/1 without Altior?
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I wouldn't be too excited about him and I'm quite a big fan of his.

He'd need worse than goodf to soft, but when he beat Footpad, Tycoon Prince is only 4.5L back and he's been thrashed 32L by Cadmium since...

He's got no realistic chance against Min or Footpad either


I do like him, but no?
 
Min at 5/6 is the best short price of the festival for me. As much as I love Altior, Min at 5/1 ew 1/4 odds is also too big, given Altior did show a slight chink in his jumping lto.

I fully expect Altior to win but Min is a different level to the rest and will finish a good second to Altior. Should Altior slip up, Min will be winning this.

5 pts Min 5/6 w/o
2.5pts ew Min 5/1ew
 
Kevloaf said:
That WAS 16s, now he's been confirmed its 22/1?

I'll be adding that as well.
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22's in the w/out market when PP/Betfair plus others are as short as 25/1 in the market with Altior :very_drunk::confused:
 
NRNB I hope FM :p
 
Gutted that Footpad isn't coming here. Think Mullins and co are making s big mistake sending him to the Ryanair. On the expected Soft ground he would have been the only threat to Altior. His chances in the Ryanair are limited IMHO.
 
I think Min is a far better horse than Footpad! I think Min is the second best 2 mile chaser in training. Could Footpad be the worst favourite of the week in the Ryanair if Mondale, Road to Respect and Frodon line up? Could be talking utter shite because that title could be Champs
 
Philg123 said:
I think Min is a far better horse than Footpad! I think Min is the second best 2 mile chaser in training. Could Footpad be the worst favourite of the week in the Ryanair if Mondale, Road to Respect and Frodon line up? Could be talking utter shite because that title could be Champs
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Totally agree re Champ, he won't get home. Same applies to OK Corall in 4 miler and Sir Erec in Triumph. The worst fav tag though will belong to Angels Breath in the Supreme......how anyone can back that donkey I do not know. Bookies must be laughing at punters
 
Lobos said:
Totally agree re Champ, he won't get home. Same applies to OK Corall in 4 miler and Sir Erec in Triumph. The worst fav tag though will belong to Angels Breath in the Supreme......how anyone can back that donkey I do not know. Bookies must be laughing at punters
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I have a few points to make about your post:
1) Champ won’t get home? He pulled his way through both starts this season and finished better than anything. He may be all about stamina to be able to pull like that and still win both races - including a grade 1 (albeit a weak Challow Hurdle).

2) Ok Corral is an interesting angle I’ve seen from a few people. Look back at his run in the Albert Bartlett last season in a quickly run race. OK Corral finishes fast and looks like he will relish a stamina test. The only reason people are doubting him staying, despite all evidence, is because he looked so good and showed gears at Warwick.

3) Sir Erec I think is beaten by Pic D’Orhy. I also think SE had a slow pace both times this season and, particularly last time out, was able to use his turn of foot from his flat racing days, to kick away from them. Can he do that off a fast pace with a stiff Cheltenham hill to climb? I don’t know. But at odds on I’d rather look elsewhere than he.

4) Angels Breath is a donkey? Don’t be stupid. That’s frankly an idiotic comment to make. He won his point to point. He was then massively hyped and thrown into a Grade 2 on his debut at Ascot. Yes there was only four flights jumped but he drew away from a good field and was backed that day like a bit of a monster. He looked like a very good horse. He then had his flu jab and finished a running on second on a flat track in track record time. On just his second start under rules. The stiff hill and the soft ground will suit him. You may not think he’s a value favourite (he’s second favourite atm anyway) but he isn’t a donkey.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I have a few points to make about your post:
1) Champ won’t get home? He pulled his way through both starts this season and finished better than anything. He may be all about stamina to be able to pull like that and still win both races - including a grade 1 (albeit a weak Challow Hurdle).

2) Ok Corral is an interesting angle I’ve seen from a few people. Look back at his run in the Albert Bartlett last season in a quickly run race. OK Corral finishes fast and looks like he will relish a stamina test. The only reason people are doubting him staying, despite all evidence, is because he looked so good and showed gears at Warwick.

3) Sir Erec I think is beaten by Pic D’Orhy. I also think SE had a slow pace both times this season and, particularly last time out, was able to use his turn of foot from his flat racing days, to kick away from them. Can he do that off a fast pace with a stiff Cheltenham hill to climb? I don’t know. But at odds on I’d rather look elsewhere than he.

4) Angels Breath is a donkey? Don’t be stupid. That’s frankly an idiotic comment to make. He won his point to point. He was then massively hyped and thrown into a Grade 2 on his debut at Ascot. Yes there was only four flights jumped but he drew away from a good field and was backed that day like a bit of a monster. He looked like a very good horse. He then had his flu jab and finished a running on second on a flat track in track record time. On just his second start under rules. The stiff hill and the soft ground will suit him. You may not think he’s a value favourite (he’s second favourite atm anyway) but he isn’t a donkey.
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I respect your views and you put them across very well but I'm not one to hold back on what I think and I'll stick to my guns and I'll back against all of the above. BoD v Champ, Ballyward v Ok C, KD and AD v Angels and PIC v Erec. If we all thought the same this game would be boring. Good luck next week....we'll all need it !!
 
Champion Chase – Altior, Castlegrace Paddy, God's Own, Hell's Kitchen, Min, Ordinary World, Politologue, Saint Calvados, Sceau Royal.
 
Kevloaf said:
Champion Chase – Altior, Castlegrace Paddy, God's Own, Hell's Kitchen, Min, Ordinary World, Politologue, Saint Calvados, Sceau Royal.
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Min in the right race, can't be afraid of one horse.
 
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