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Pertemps Final 2018
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Sure you guys have , but have you checked out Louis Vac Pouch form this season in two races so far and the horses in front and behind him?
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Looks like Gordon is on a scouting mission as he also has Glenloe entered as well. Diamond Cauchois needs to qualify but he's also already on a fairly high Irish mark of 143 so they may look elsewhere if he gets slapped with a hike over here. Glenloe on the other hand has qualified but is only on an Irish mark of 134 so he'll need a bit of help from the Phil Smith inflation.
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Glenloe blue across the boards today. Be no surprise to see Gordon and JP line one out for this. Not on myself yet (iv actually backed JPs other one, The Organist). And interestingly enough Call the Taxie who Glenloe beat in its maiden, seems to be well supported for the Thyestes.
Glenloe looks a chaser in the making which seems to be a trend for this race too.
Glenloe looks a chaser in the making which seems to be a trend for this race too.
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I mentioned on the Albert Bartlett thread some months ago that I really fancied Calett Mad at the prices. I see he's entered in a qualifier for this race at Huntingdon on Friday. I really think that we will see him to better effect when he gets some genuinely good ground to run on. Off his mark of 141 he could look thrown in for this and I could see him having a stone in hand off that mark (on good ground).
I will be very interested to see if he's in the final declarations for the Huntingdon qualifier, hopefully he is and runs a nice race that doesn't wreck his mark but qualifies him for the final.
Hills are still 33/1 any chelt race and ive taken that with their price boost to around 36/1.
A friend pointed out to me today that all French Breds to run this century have been beaten in the race (71 in total), so that would be a concern, but I wonder how many French breds have run in the race with at least a stone in hand!!!! lol
He is a confident selection in the any race market as long as he gets decent ground in whichever race he runs.
I will be very interested to see if he's in the final declarations for the Huntingdon qualifier, hopefully he is and runs a nice race that doesn't wreck his mark but qualifies him for the final.
Hills are still 33/1 any chelt race and ive taken that with their price boost to around 36/1.
A friend pointed out to me today that all French Breds to run this century have been beaten in the race (71 in total), so that would be a concern, but I wonder how many French breds have run in the race with at least a stone in hand!!!! lol
He is a confident selection in the any race market as long as he gets decent ground in whichever race he runs.
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I like that selection actually. Completely missed him and id rather the trend of a fancied Albert Bartlett horse turned handicapper over no French bred ever winning tbh! And trends are always broken at some point 
It does look like a particularly strong qualifier though. I'll be watching with interest. 16 out of the 24 that ran in this last year ran in the last 5 qualifiers so I want to leave my bets late this year but a strong qualifier usually works out.
It does look like a particularly strong qualifier though. I'll be watching with interest. 16 out of the 24 that ran in this last year ran in the last 5 qualifiers so I want to leave my bets late this year but a strong qualifier usually works out.
Trainer Phil Middleton arrived at Fakenham on Monday by helicopter and probably left by armoured van after his Holly Bush Henry landed him the final leg of a lucrative accumulator.
Middleton, 66, permed Ascot winners Jenkins, Drumcliff, Acting Lass and a non-runner in a £200 each-way bet at the weekend, with the winnings set to roll on to his own Holly Bush Henry.
Carrying a welter burden of 12st 3lb, less jockey James Bowen's 5lb claim, 5-2 favourite Holly Bush Henry gamely fought his way to victory in the 3m handicap chase, netting Middleton upwards of £50,000.
The trainer said: "Mark [Lowther, co-owner] has a box at Ascot and we were there socially on Saturday. I had a £100 each-way Yankee and also had the same four horses with Holly Bush Henry in a £200 each-way accumulator. I've not worked it out, but it's over £50,000."
Middleton added: "After Holly Bush Henry won at Sandown I said we'd put him away for the Pertemps Final at Cheltenham, but he was so well and I couldn't let him down.
"I said to Mark we'd win a chase with him instead, to protect his hurdles mark, and he was so game today."
Pertemps mark obviously one they like. 33/1 with WH .... as short as 14 on places NRNB....
1pt ew?
Middleton, 66, permed Ascot winners Jenkins, Drumcliff, Acting Lass and a non-runner in a £200 each-way bet at the weekend, with the winnings set to roll on to his own Holly Bush Henry.
Carrying a welter burden of 12st 3lb, less jockey James Bowen's 5lb claim, 5-2 favourite Holly Bush Henry gamely fought his way to victory in the 3m handicap chase, netting Middleton upwards of £50,000.
The trainer said: "Mark [Lowther, co-owner] has a box at Ascot and we were there socially on Saturday. I had a £100 each-way Yankee and also had the same four horses with Holly Bush Henry in a £200 each-way accumulator. I've not worked it out, but it's over £50,000."
Middleton added: "After Holly Bush Henry won at Sandown I said we'd put him away for the Pertemps Final at Cheltenham, but he was so well and I couldn't let him down.
"I said to Mark we'd win a chase with him instead, to protect his hurdles mark, and he was so game today."
Pertemps mark obviously one they like. 33/1 with WH .... as short as 14 on places NRNB....
1pt ew?
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Sounds like they're happy enough with that. LVP has had his day in the sun?
The winners of the qualifiers aren't usually the ones to come out on top in the day...
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Not necessarily though. Connections knew Fingal Bay could win off top weight when his Novice Chasing fell apart. He won a late qualifier and landed a gamble on the day. I do agree, its more of a "plot" race, unless you can find one that had better targets for the year and didnt quite reach its potential (for whatever reason).
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I agree it’s a plot race - I think Louis’s been plotted up for this all season. This was what Johnson said back in November:
“Richard Johnson: Pertemps Final is Louis’ Vac Pouch's target
13 Nov
I was torn between going to Aintree to ride Louis’ Vac Pouch or Wincanton for Copper Kay, as I thought they both had decent chances.
Philip told me I should head up to Liverpool and he was exactly right. He’s the brains of the outfit and I’m always better off listening to him.
The Silver Trophy at Chepstow has worked out really well and Louis’ Vac Pouch was only beaten a couple of lengths there.
He was a little bit keen early on over three miles for the first time, so he did well to win. He saw out the trip really well.
His owners are really enthusiastic and I’m sure they’ll be keen to have a go at the Pertemps Final in March.”
I’ve nothing against Holly Bush - I backed him today & won on him at Sandown but he ran 6th on the first qualifier, 4th in the Aintree race & won the Sandown race - not your typical plot? Look at the form of the LVP races this year, add in he’s only ran at 3 miles once, is a young improving horse & 20s look a knocking bet to me - just my opinion!
“Richard Johnson: Pertemps Final is Louis’ Vac Pouch's target
13 Nov
I was torn between going to Aintree to ride Louis’ Vac Pouch or Wincanton for Copper Kay, as I thought they both had decent chances.
Philip told me I should head up to Liverpool and he was exactly right. He’s the brains of the outfit and I’m always better off listening to him.
The Silver Trophy at Chepstow has worked out really well and Louis’ Vac Pouch was only beaten a couple of lengths there.
He was a little bit keen early on over three miles for the first time, so he did well to win. He saw out the trip really well.
His owners are really enthusiastic and I’m sure they’ll be keen to have a go at the Pertemps Final in March.”
I’ve nothing against Holly Bush - I backed him today & won on him at Sandown but he ran 6th on the first qualifier, 4th in the Aintree race & won the Sandown race - not your typical plot? Look at the form of the LVP races this year, add in he’s only ran at 3 miles once, is a young improving horse & 20s look a knocking bet to me - just my opinion!
Did he have excuses last time out? Beaten 20+ lengths by OTBS and Poetic Rhythm, one of which at least will be reopposing if he’s in the bartlett. Not sure where he stands in the pecking order for the pertemps, hope he runs Friday
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33/1 any race for me. I know you have played up the horses chances all season Archie so fingers crossed