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Mares Hurdle 2021

Quevega said:
She's no longer ambitious BTW she's victorious.
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Haha I noticed that mistake when I went to check that I got the colours right and was bemused that I could have sworn they were brown.

Took me at least 15 seconds - being 9 didn't do it for me
 
Kevloaf said:
:encouragement: Yeah spot on.


Her horrible brown and yellow colours won't help her cause either. What on earth were they thinking. I think they're my least favourite silks.
:blue:





#pinkandgreenforthewin
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agree about the colours.
Although they are the same colours as my favourite Chew.

Banana Skids.

If that's the reason for the colours then that's Ok by me.

Had some Wham Bar Ice cream the other day.
Highly recommend it.
 
Quevega said:
There's every chance she ends up in a handicap to be fair.
Just depends how she goes/progresses.
And whether the triumph works out or not.
We'd normally have a few more clues by now.

She's deffo unexposed though and her Triumph win (coming from so far back, and pretty much the only one to do so) has been massively
overshadowed by the tripping up of Goshen. With his magnetic shoes.
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According to Andy Gibson, "I thought it was also very interesting that Burning Victory was extremely slow from the final hurdle to the winning line compared with each of Monkfish, Saint Roi and Indefatigable". IE, she tired up the hill after a 'hold up' ride.

I'm happy with my EW bet on Concertista for this race next year so happy to hear people mentioning that both Benie and Honeysuckle may choose other options! :encouragement:
 
Listening to you guys I think it's the right move for me to play all 3 (DDC, BA and Concertista) TWAR. They could all end up in separate races with big chances as well which is always a bonus !
 
Daylight Katie could be something of a forgotten horse for this.
 
OverTheLast said:
Daylight Katie could be something of a forgotten horse for this.
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Could be, I'd think she's more likely to end up in a handicap though given that she's with Gordon Elliotta nd that angle is workable still.
 
Bonjers said:
Laurina also now with Nicholls.
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:encouragement: Been mentioned on a couple of threads now..... I can't imagine that we live in a world where an ex Willie Mullins horse wins the Mares Hurdle at Cheltenham.

He'd have fought harder to keep her / not let go / try extra hard if he thought she'd snaffle this prize away from him.



She wasn't exactly high on anybodies list as most likely winners I'm sure, but as good as Nicholls is, it can't be a positive.
 
Fairly big news for this race, Honeysuckle's plans are to remain over hurdles.


Wasn't expecting that personally.

Will it affect Benie Des Dieux's target?

Will they have a rematch?



Is Honeysuckle certain to run here? (if well)
 
7/2 for an unbeaten 6/7 year old mare is value. Even this far away.

Her only rival will be 10 years old and could even go chasing at Cheltenham. Although more likely line up here again I'd reckon.
 
Would there be any chance she goes for Champion Hurdle? Or has something been said that she will stick to mares?
 
Quevega said:
7/2 for an unbeaten 6/7 year old mare is value. Even this far away.

Her only rival will be 10 years old and could even go chasing at Cheltenham. Although more likely line up here again I'd reckon.
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Yeah I've just backed her at 7/2 with the cashout option.

It's a two horse race that could easily be a one horse race.

Unless we get something from the clouds but I'd feel confident I could get that covered in good time.

Big Bucks said:
Would there be any chance she goes for Champion Hurdle? Or has something been said that she will stick to mares?
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Yeah, it's a fair point, there must be a chance.

I'd consider it unlikely myself given she didn't do it this year when it looked a weak race on paper...

Then again, I considered it unlikely she wouldn't be going over fences so what do I know :highly_amused:
 
I don’t see any reason why she would go for the champion hurdle this season after they ducked it last season. This season looks a better renewal at this stage. TWAR 3/1 seems fair enough though for the sake of a point difference
 
Kautostar said:
I don’t see any reason why she would go for the champion hurdle this season after they ducked it last season. This season looks a better renewal at this stage. TWAR 3/1 seems fair enough though for the sake of a point difference
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I'd prefer to be able to cash out at 7/2 (Mares) than take 3/1 (Any) without it.

She's incredibly unlikely to be sub 3/1 for the Champion Hurdle even if takin her chance, where I agree with you, she is not that likely to take in.
 
The 3/1 for the champion hurdle is just insurance in the unlikely event that happens so imo is worth the half a point difference of TWAR. If they do switch you’re on at bad value but I’d be 99% confident it’ll be the mares hurdle out of the two. I get the cash out side of things but it always concerns me with the more high profile horses that they will be quicker off the mark to pull the plug and therefore you get left with a nr
 
....in light of the Honeysuckle ‘news’ I had a quick look at Sky RaBs to see if any might offer more value;

Easywork/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Bob Ollinger/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Honeysuckle w MH: Envoi Allen w a/r: LostinTranslation place GC 40-1
Chacun: Honeysuckle: Shishkin w a/r 66-1
Honeysuckle MH: ABP GC: Envoi a/r all to win 80-1
Gypsy Island: Honeysuckle: BDD win a/r 125-1
Ferny: Appreciate: Honeysuckle w a/r 125-1
Goshen: Shishkin: Envoi: Honeysuckle w a/r 200-1.
 
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That's a shocker. Personally think they'll aim Churdle and slip back into Mares should it not go to plan. Benie now looks an outstanding bet at 14/1 for Mares Chase. That can't last. Penalty kick ?
 
Lobos said:
That's a shocker. Personally think they'll aim Churdle and slip back into Mares should it not go to plan. Benie now looks an outstanding bet at 14/1 for Mares Chase. That can't last. Penalty kick ?
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It's got to be a consideration hasn't it.

I thought the related double was worth a little tickle at those current prices.

I'd still be wary of parting with cash on Benie's target. You can easily make a case for the Mares Hurdle, Stayers Hurdle and Mares Chase.
 
May be more tempting now for PTKO to go Mares Chase route
 
Eggs said:
....in light of the Honeysuckle ‘news’ I had a quick look at Sky RaBs to see if any might offer more value;

Easywork/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Bob Ollinger/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Honeysuckle w MH: Envoi Allen w a/r: LostinTranslation place GC 40-1
Chacun: Honeysuckle: Shishkin w a/r 66-1
Honeysuckle MH: ABP GC: Envoi a/r all to win 80-1
Gypsy Island: Honeysuckle: BDD win a/r 125-1
Ferny: Appreciate: Honeysuckle w a/r 125-1
Goshen: Shishkin: Envoi: Honeysuckle w a/r 200-1.
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Nice one Eggs - invested in a couple of those....Honeysuckle and Bob Olinger TWAR at 40-1 and the ABP, Envoi, Honeysuckle combo at 80-1.

Also good news for Happy Diva fans - one less star turn to beat in the Mares Chase by the look of it.
 
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