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Mares Hurdle 2020

Scooby91

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roksana, honeysuckle, stormy Ireland, laurina, benie des dieux, apples jade. Eglantine du Seuil. Could all arguably go here.

However, One I like, and think could improve for this season especially at the intermediate trip, is elfile. I though lt she ran a race full of promise at fairyhouse against honeysuckle and had been crying out for a step up beforehand. Honeysuckle came in to the race fresh and had the run of the race imo, where as Elfile on the back of a hard race at chelt had to come through the pack and finished her race very well. She won a nothing race at punchestown afterwards and was never stronger than at the line, 33s is very fair, however With mullins holding a huge hand at his disposal here, and elfile seemingly looking the 2nd string in her own colours, nevermind the yard. The bet right now wouldn't make sense, however she may be value in turning over one of her higher profile stablemates in a minor graded race on the way to chelt.

After race at*Punchestown Thu, 2nd May, 2019 (1st)**"she (Elfile) looks smart. I think she wants another half mile but she’s such a slick jumper that she’s able to counteract that. I think once she goes up in trip she’ll be better and Paul thought the ground was quick enough for her too. She wants a good dig in the ground. She’s one to look forward to next year and I’d say she will stay hurdling"
**W P Mullins
 
Can't see past Honeysuckle for this now that Broomhead had confirmed she will stay hurdling. Was the outstanding novice mare last season and looks absolutely made for this race. With doubts over Benies participation and Laurina potentially going over the bigger obstacles she is my biggest AP bet so far. Ton on at 7's with Paddy Power. That's me done!
 
I looked at Elfile a few weeks ago and ended up backing Eglantine as it was available with B365.
Their form is very close together and I was unsure at the time what they'd do with Honeysuckle.
I expect BDD to run here first time up.
But one of Willie's novices from last year could easily improve a fair bit. And those two looked the most likely.
Liked how Elfile was one of the best finishers in the mares novice that was near the pace.
But also liked Eglantine's staying up the hill at the finish after being ridden like a horse not expected to win. It could have been the way the race shaped but she (Eglantine) looked like a Cheltenham lover.
It could easily be a hot enough race though at this stage.
Max bet when they go NRNB for Benie for me, hoping apples has had another outstanding autumn and winter and honeysuckle has picked up some grade ones too. Might get a price then.
 
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Lobos said:
With doubts over Benies participation and Laurina potentially going over the bigger obstacles
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Laurina staying over hurdles this year was the latest from Sullivan - they confirmed a likely step up in trip over hurdles for the year. Think BDD will be back and take all the beating, the 7s on Honeysuckle though is a mighty price agreed.
 
Lobos said:
Can't see past Honeysuckle for this now that Broomhead had confirmed she will stay hurdling. Was the outstanding novice mare last season and looks absolutely made for this race. With doubts over Benies participation and Laurina potentially going over the bigger obstacles she is my biggest AP bet so far. Ton on at 7's with Paddy Power. That's me done!
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Good luck, little doubt imo that BDD will go here. I wouldnt be wanting to take her on with a win only bet personally
 
Scooby91 said:
Good luck, little doubt imo that BDD will go here. I wouldnt be wanting to take her on with a win only bet personally
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I have a nagging doubt re Benie turning up here. She's won it already and had a hard luck story last year. Think she will switch between hurdles and chases this season before ending up in the Stayers or even Ryanair. Mullins has at least 5 that can be very competitive in the Mares' without calling on her.
 
Lobos said:
I have a nagging doubt re Benie turning up here. She's won it already and had a hard luck story last year. Think she will switch between hurdles and chases this season before ending up in the Stayers or even Ryanair. Mullins has at least 5 that can be very competitive in the Mares' without calling on her.
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Will be really surprised if BDD doesn’t come here but stranger things have happened
ATM she is a 4 figure return ( second leg of first leg winners in doubles)
Will follow you in on Honeysuckle as a saver
 
It won’t happen of course but if we got Honeysuckle v Laurina v BDD here it would look a better race than the Champion Hurdle
 
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It won’t happen of course but if we got Honeysuckle v Laurina v BDD here it would look a better race than the Champion Hurdle
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Those three rated rated 157, 159, 150, would have to be a terrible Champion Hurdle to look worse than that.
 
Walsh says he personally thinks Benie will not go chasing this season and that she'll end up in the Mares. Ladbroke Trophy then Stayers it is then !! Lol !!
 
Ruby Walsh on the Facebook Q&A thing says Benie Des Dieux is Willie's most likely Cheltenham winner, and that "she'll take some stopping...in the Mares at Cheltenham"


She's going to go off Even or shorter int she (if she gets there)...

I'm trying to think of a creative way to justify the 5/2 being a good bet now :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
Ruby Walsh on the Facebook Q&A thing says Benie Des Dieux is Willie's most likely Cheltenham winner, and that "she'll take some stopping...in the Mares at Cheltenham"


She's going to go off Even or shorter int she (if she gets there)...

I'm trying to think of a creative way to justify the 5/2 being a good bet now :highly_amused:
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Bear in mind the Any race price with Hills is the same 5/2 plus boost. I’m personally not quite ready for a top up just yet
 
I was all over Benie in this last year like a rash. This year I just have a hunch she will meet her match in Honeysuckle. She was mightily impressive in all her races last season and swept the Cheltenham novice Mares form to one side at Punchestown with any amount in hand.
 
How the hell did us so called punters let his Listen Dear win the valuable Mares race at at 14/1 at Limerick today ??? !!!! Upped to this distance for the first time, won in a canter. One that got away !!
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Bear in mind the Any race price with Hills is the same 5/2 plus boost. I’m personally not quite ready for a top up just yet
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Well if I was having a single that's what I'd do... but I'm just not that way inclined as a punter. I'd rather back evens on the day than 5/2 now.


I'm just toying with things like Paisley Park, Tiger Roll and Benie Des Dieux - ultimately I want them all onside but realistically, they're poor value now (or the right price) or whatever it is.




I think I just got over excited because we "know" the target...:highly_amused:
 
Lobos said:
How the hell did us so called punters let his Listen Dear win the valuable Mares race at at 14/1 at Limerick today ??? !!!! Upped to this distance for the first time, won in a canter. One that got away !!
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She's not one of mine but I know she was in the last chance saloon today. She had a golf ball sized tumour removed in the spring and looked to have lost her enthusiasm for the game. I think the other runners let her get away with it today because even in her early career she liked things her own way.
 
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How the hell did us so called punters let his Listen Dear win the valuable Mares race at at 14/1 at Limerick today ??? !!!! Upped to this distance for the first time, won in a canter. One that got away !!
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Think it came as a surprise to everyone, wasn't fancied even by connections today.
 
I am a connection, and i didn't have a penny on. Happy days though.

Archie's right, she has one way of racing + that's from the front, but even then recently that wasn't working.
 
jack1092 said:
I am a connection, and i didn't have a penny on. Happy days though.

Archie's right, she has one way of racing + that's from the front, but even then recently that wasn't working.
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Was all about the extra distance with her. Brought about a huge amount of improvement. You have to hand it to Mullins he knows how to get the best out of these Mares. Sensational trainer
 
Thanks Kev
I’ve backed since March ( 6/1) and in doubles ( first legs already won ) and will continue to do so
Will be my biggest winner
Redemption awaits, stay fit BDD.
 
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