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Mares Hurdle 2019

Apples Jade was beaten by Benie Des Dieux even more convincingly at Punchestown than at Cheltenham so the recent run argument doesn't hold water and I don't believe the in season excuse.
She started to jump right which is often an indicator of something wrong but it's possible that it was mental rather than physical. She won at the weekend because the opposition wasn't that strong and I think she's starting to get her own ideas about the game.
 
I totally buy into the 'in season' excuse. AJ is a better horse than BDD in my opinion and she clearly under performed in the spring. The way GE was talking about her in the stable tour at the start of this season was so positive that she must have been showing plenty at home.

Her jumping to the right is only marginal and not severe enough to worry me at this stage.

They are two good mares but I have AJ ahead, even though she has been beaten twice by BDD.
 
Archie, the point about the lack of a recent run was relating to the fact she might not have been right during that period which would tally with the fact she's not quite run to form both times+ might be something worth watching this spring in case she doesnt have a prep run either.

She will have to step up no doubt when in the Hattons Grace- but that run is definitely on the right track. She's finished 3rd behind Midnight Tour + also 3rd behind Augusta Kate- they are both fine mares, but compare that form to even Sunday's rout and it probably suggests she's run a heck of a lot better!

Also, if you watch back 2 seasons ago, she still had the odd tendency to jump right when at Chelt and Leop, so it was always there, but its probably more exaggerated now, so to me that would point to a habit creeping in rather than a injury. Elliot would be fully aware of the jumping right + will have taken every precaution necessary.

When i was down at Elliots last season around October, she was flying and always leading her lot with plenty of zest, giving Jack Kennedy a fun spin.....Elliot did mention this wasnt the case later in the season, and perhaps that's just an excuse but he has said thats changed for the good again.

Perhaps Spring it'll all change again? who knows- that's my point about the prep run being a possible indicator.
 
I thought Stormy Ireland was really good over the weekend. Pulling away on the bridge from Good Thyne Tara to win by 8.5L
Has previously beaten her by 7L before so not exactly an improvement in her form but after her ridiculous 58L debut win she's a horse I'm fond of (as I'm sure many others are)

Mullins said: "She seems to have improved hugely from last season. The summer break has done her good.

"She had a few very hard races last season. I thought she looked much stronger and looked a little tubby, I thought, in the parade ring beforehand.
"Being able to do that, while looking like that, I think she'll improve.
"Ruby changed the bit on her before the race and put a kinder bit on her. She accepted it better.
"We'll try to plan for the future now. I'm trying to figure out what kind of a race we'll go for now as she's only four.
"We might look for a four-year-old race rather than take on the older horses. I'd imagine we'll keep her to mares' races."
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Thinking further down the line, I thought as she'd taken a step up to 2m2 so well first time out this year, whether 2m4f would be her race at Cheltenham in the Mares Race? I think it's pretty safe to assume if she did run at the festival it'd be in this race, and she's 14/1 (Although you can back Stormy ISLAND at 16/1 best price :highly_amused:)

I'm not going to back her at this stage - she's unlikely to get shorter and I'd be hopeful of a similar price when NRNB arrives. If she's sticking to 4yo and Mares races she's unlikely to turn up any trees. I doubt Laurina, Limini, Benie Des Dieux, Apple's Jade all turn up here though, so I will keep her in mind.
 
Kevloaf said:
I thought Stormy Ireland was really good over the weekend. Pulling away on the bridge from Good Thyne Tara to win by 8.5L
Has previously beaten her by 7L before so not exactly an improvement in her form but after her ridiculous 58L debut win she's a horse I'm fond of (as I'm sure many others are)



Thinking further down the line, I thought as she'd taken a step up to 2m2 so well first time out this year, whether 2m4f would be her race at Cheltenham in the Mares Race? I think it's pretty safe to assume if she did run at the festival it'd be in this race, and she's 14/1 (Although you can back Stormy ISLAND at 16/1 best price :highly_amused:)

I'm not going to back her at this stage - she's unlikely to get shorter and I'd be hopeful of a similar price when NRNB arrives. If she's sticking to 4yo and Mares races she's unlikely to turn up any trees. I doubt Laurina, Limini, Benie Des Dieux, Apple's Jade all turn up here though, so I will keep her in mind.
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I thinks she wants 2 miles. But your not left with much choice really. Will be interesting to see if they have a go against the boys pre chelt.
 
Scooby91 said:
I thinks she wants 2 miles. But your not left with much choice really. Will be interesting to see if they have a go against the boys pre chelt.
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I suppose it'll depend if she can settle. SHe's so keen so maybe looks more like 2 miles is her trip. I don't think she'd have any trouble over 2m4f if she settled well, but then again, she's not got any other option - County Hurdle if you were thinking pretty left field - wouldn't fancy her in a huge runner handicap though.
 
Oddly enough Skybet have had a ‘special’ of Stormy ireland to win the county hurdle @20/1 for about 3 months
 
Hurricane fly said:
Oddly enough Skybet have had a ‘special’ of Stormy ireland to win the county hurdle @20/1 for about 3 months
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Hahaha, wow!

Well I'm obviously not the first person to have that cross their mind. I can't imagine whoever requested it was pleased with 20/1 for a horse in a handicap this far out though!
 
It very, very much sounded like Willie wants both Benie Des Dieux AND Laurina in this race though from that stable tour today. He name checked the race for both.

With that in mind I'm not sure how strongly I'd fancy Laurina at her price now of 4/1.

Ruby would have to get off the reigning champion and you'd imagine he'd ride both on the lead up to the festival... whichever he chose would obviously go off fav.

That is without throwing Apple's Jade in the mix as ones they have to beat too.

The owners WILL surely have a say too?

Is 4/1 a little skinny? Tiger Roll is 4/1 the day after and a much more solid bet for example.
 
Willie also said that BDD will be running in a mix of hurdles and fences on his stable tour, heard it on Racing UK earlier.
 
What a performance. A demolition!
 
Why they don't try stayers I'll never know
 
Wow.

I imagine when NRNB comes out we can all jsut have the Buveur D'air, Apple's Jade double on, and be done with it :p
 
Kevloaf said:
Wow.

I imagine when NRNB comes out we can all jsut have the Buveur D'air, Apple's Jade double on, and be done with it :p
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Still 3/1?

Were the bookies watching a different race?
 
I took the 3/1 with 365
Cashout no brainer.
 
I couldn't care less if laurina comes here. I'll take my chance on AJ at 3/1.
 
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