JLT Novices 2018

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Just hoping he makes the Festival so I can lay some of my any race stake off

 

[Robbante]

Bloody hell! Finians Oscar to be aimed at this after a breathing op....

Surprised he isn't undergoing a sex change op and running in the mares hurdle :highly_amused: I think he has the talent to go close in this, despite how he's been messed around this season. If the breathing op goes smoothly he'll actually probably appreciate a few weeks rest after being slogged all over the place, tripwise and obstacle wise

 

[Kevloaf]

What a long way around to get him in the race that looked most suitable all season.:highly_amused:

I have to say I've completely given up on him winning any race at Cheltenham, but I had some speculative multiples early on and if he lines up you do never know!

*** If only the horse could jump a fence :highly_amused:

 

[charlie]

Surprised he isn't undergoing a sex change op and running in the mares hurdle :highly_amused: I think he has the talent to go close in this, despite how he's been messed around this season. If the breathing op goes smoothly he'll actually probably appreciate a few weeks rest after being slogged all over the place, tripwise and obstacle wise

That really made me laugh pal!!! :highly_amused:

 

[robith]

Tizzard is looking like a right eejit over this horse imo

 

[Can't Catch Me]

Tizzard is looking like a right eejit over this horse imo

Completely. Im just pleased for the horse they eventually came to the right conclusion, however convoluted the journey was! Hard to see anything other than this being the best option for him.

I was going to lay him if he went anywhere else, but still think he could run a big one in this.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Any one have a strong opinion on where Sutton Place will end up?

 

[Scooby91]

Any one have a strong opinion on where Sutton Place will end up?

Depends what he does at the weekend. He's obviously a very good horse. They're not going to turn down a gold cup in the future on gd to soft I wouldn't have thought. So whether they'd turn down the jlt/ rsa because of the ground only time will tell.
your only a novice once. And they're not deep races for a horse of his ability.

 

[Kevloaf]

Any one have a strong opinion on where Sutton Place will end up?

A prime example of a good horse to back NRNB IMO.

If he wins the Flogas, he will be shorter for JLT and RSA ..... if he doesn't win the Flogas, he won't be running at the festival as a back-number.

12/1 for this and 10/1 RSA ..... could be half the price for both

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Cheers guys. I have a couple of cash out options for him in this and the RSA, but as he is likely to turn up I may just leave them both and accept one as a loser, as placed before NRNB.

 

[Hurricane fly]

If this was a handicap Finians Oscar would look like the greatest plot in the history of handicaps

But it’s not

 

[Zipiter]

Is this Alboum Photo's definite target (I know its impossible to be certain given the trainer)??

Has there been any news on him since his fall at Christmas?

 

[jono]

I can't see Finian's Oscar winning at Cheltenham but bear with me just for the sake of conversation...

On the basis that:

This race could cut up a fair bit and that he did only lose out to Benatar by a short head at Ascot when giving 5 pounds, a horse who has impressed over fences and is 4th fav for this race currently...there's a very small chance all might somehow come right for the horse

But then...

This won’t hurt him, having gone back over hurdles for a bit of confidence. We might even give him a little spin next month, back in a novice chase and then go in the two-and-a-half-miler at Cheltenham.

If there is anyone around that still does fancy or clings to hope of him winning i'd be extremely concerned they want to get another run into him next month. Would be a very hard campaigning of the horse imo, even more so than what has gone on so far

 

[kinloch brae]

Really struggling with this now that Whittington appears intent on steering Saint Calvados towards inevitable defeat in the Arkle. Why even waste the entry in this, particularly if you really believe Bigmatre wants another half mile, even though he didn't look like he did on Saturday and hasn't looked like he did in any of his races?

Hopefully, something will catch the eye in the next few weeks, otherwise it is looking like a no bet race.

 

[Kevloaf]

Really struggling with this now that Whittington appears intent on steering Saint Calvados towards inevitable defeat in the Arkle. Why even waste the entry in this, particularly if you really believe Bigmatre wants another half mile, even though he didn't look like he did on Saturday and hasn't looked like he did in any of his races?

Hopefully, something will catch the eye in the next few weeks, otherwise it is looking like a no bet race.

A no bet race? What is one of them?




What don't you like about the main protagonists KB?

Willoughby Court
Invitation Only NRNB?
Benetar
Al Boum Photo NRNB?

Nothing in the Flogas entries?

Kemboy? The Storyteller?


I don't think anything is standout at the prices now... but interested to hear your opinion

 

[Kevloaf]

I can't see Finian's Oscar winning at Cheltenham but bear with me just for the sake of conversation...

On the basis that:

This race could cut up a fair bit and that he did only lose out to Benatar by a short head at Ascot when giving 5 pounds, a horse who has impressed over fences and is 4th fav for this race currently...there's a very small chance all might somehow come right for the horse

To carry on for the sake of conversation....Who would you rather be on....

Benetar 10/1 NRNB or Finian's Oscar 16/1 NRNB

I think the latter. Despite everything, giving 5 lbs and getting beaten by a shoulder is worth the 6 extra pts on the price?

I will not be putting a penny on personally, as I already have 2 pts on Finian's Oscar at 10/1 win from last year :highly_amused: (Not to mention some multiples that have all of a suddenly sprung back to life)..... but I do think Benetar's price is potentially too tight based on FO's....

 

[Vautour]

To carry on for the sake of conversation....Who would you rather be on....

Benetar 10/1 NRNB or Finian's Oscar 16/1 NRNB

I think the latter. Despite everything, giving 5 lbs and getting beaten by a shoulder is worth the 6 extra pts on the price?

I will not be putting a penny on personally, as I already have 2 pts on Finian's Oscar at 10/1 win from last year :highly_amused: (Not to mention some multiples that have all of a sudden sprung back to life)..... but I do think Benetar's price is potentially too tight based on FO's....

I'm back in on Finians!

Granted bet365 let me cash out my multiple with him in it for 60% of the stake and allowed me to put that back on the same bet to get the same return with NRNB. Seems crazy.

If he goes straight there I give him a smidge of a chance if he somehow finds something and stops scaring himself when he sees a fence. Just read that back and that seems crazy too!

I'm delighted with this news though purely because I have a lot of early season bets with him in it and it's good to know I at least get a run for my money regardless of how small his chance is. Some of them are quite tidy too - B D'Air, cause of Causes, Finians and Minella Rocco in the National for a mill.

 

[Kevloaf]

I'm back in on Finians!

Granted bet365 let me cash out my multiple with him in it for 60% of the stake and allowed me to put that back on the same bet to get the same return with NRNB. Seems crazy.

If he goes straight there I give him a smidge of a chance if he somehow finds something and stops scaring himself when he sees a fence. Just read that back and that seems crazy too!

I'm delighted with this news though purely because I have a lot of early season bets with him in it and it's good to know I at least get a run for my money regardless of how small his chance is. Some of them are quite tidy too - B D'Air, cause of Causes, Finians and Minella Rocco in the National for a mill.

Fingers crossed for that one...

This race has gone fropm being the one I thought would be the STRONGEST at the start of the season, to loloking the one with the least depth.

 

[cwright23]

Lads I actually think FO is a knocking bet at 16/1.. obviously the bare form of giving Ben 5lbs beaten a neck is decent but in reality he couldn’t of jumped any worse that day.. we all know tizzard has made a mess of him this season but imagine if he improves his jumping maybe just upto standard instead of shocking, he’ll have Ben covered easy.. factor in that most of the top 12 in the betting are far from certain, the wind op may help, better ground might help.. he’ll go off single figures easily.. the only reason the 16/1 is available is because there are to many if’s.. but most of us don’t on here are punters.. so although he’s not Banker material.. I’ll be taking a punt..

 

[Folski]

Anyone worried about the jockey on Finian's? Cooper has one winner in the last 6 weeks and 4 winners in the last 3 months