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Irish Guineas

archie said:
Probably would be disqualified in France despite being clearly the best horse.

Vatican City ran a fair Derby trial.
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Not sure I'd fancy him as much over 1m 4f tbh archie. Today was the day. His dam has produced some brilliant progeny, something which made me back him today but I think 1m 2f would be the limit myself.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Not sure I'd fancy him as much over 1m 4f tbh archie. Today was the day. His dam has produced some brilliant progeny, something which made me back him today but I think 1m 2f would be the limit myself.
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The most recent full brother, Taj Mahal, got 12 furlongs ok. It looked to me that he was only just getting going.
 
archie said:
The most recent full brother, Taj Mahal, got 12 furlongs ok. It looked to me that he was only just getting going.
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It's because he couldn't get going any earlier, due to traffic issues.

Taj Mahal didn't win beyond 7f for Aiden though. Had to move to Australia and drop in grade to hit 1m 4f.

Marvellous had a crack at the Derby after winning the Irish 1k Guineas but failed to make the frame though started the race as fav.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
It's because he couldn't get going any earlier, due to traffic issues.

Taj Mahal didn't win beyond 7f for Aiden though. Had to move to Australia and drop in grade to hit 1m 4f.

Marvellous had a crack at the Derby after winning the Irish 1k Guineas but failed to make the frame though started the race as fav.
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Agree with you COD- wouldn't imagine VC will be going for Derbys. He shaped lovely though and probably would be ok over 10f as well.
 
I see the French Derby mentioned, that would make more sense distance wise i'd have though, probably more like to be kept for Irish Derby given the circumstances. Pedigree wouldn't suggest 1m4 from a mile straight away, but given the year it is, they might just do it.
 
jack1092 said:
I see the French Derby mentioned, that would make more sense distance wise i'd have though, probably more like to be kept for Irish Derby given the circumstances. Pedigree wouldn't suggest 1m4 from a mile straight away, but given the year it is, they might just do it.
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Well he's scratched and the Irish Derby seems a poor enough renewal.
 
From the RP:
"There was also news from the Tipperary base on Thursday morning regarding the Ballydoyle contenders for the Investec Derby on Saturday week, with Royal Ascot scorer Russian Emperor set to be joined by Mogul, who disappointed at the same meeting, as well as Irish 2,000 Guineas second Vatican City."
 
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