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Carnage at Taunton said:
He best GW over 3m last season and they still chose Ryanair
I just think they know he can’t win a Gold Cup.
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He Murdered him you mean. Love to see him in a GC.

JP has Meetmebythesea, Jagwar, Jonbon, Majborough.....all of which could go Ryanair for him. No doubt there are others as well.
 
Lobos said:
He Murdered him you mean. Love to see him in a GC.

JP has Meetmebythesea, Jagwar, Jonbon, Majborough.....all of which could go Ryanair for him. No doubt there are others as well.
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They could but none of them are near bankers like F2F will be. Maj entered up again in a 2m chase this weekend. JP is really desperate for that Champion Chase isn't he. It could explain the plethora of potential Arkle horses he has. I really want Mighty Park to go to the BANC, i cannot see in a month of Sundays how he is a 2 miler. They made the same mistake with Kaid D'Authie.

Edit :- In terms of messing about with his trip i mean, not stepping him up sooner.
 
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Yosser said:
They could but none of them are near bankers like F2F will be. Maj entered up again in a 2m chase this weekend. JP is really desperate for that Champion Chase isn't he. It could explain the plethora of potential Arkle horses he has. I really want Mighty Park to go to the BANC, i cannot see in a month of Sundays how he is a 2 miler. They made the same mistake with Kaid D'Authie.

Edit :- In terms of messing about with his trip i mean, not stepping him up sooner.
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I'd be pretty confident he's a stayer
 
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Lobos said:
He Murdered him you mean. Love to see him in a GC.

JP has Meetmebythesea, Jagwar, Jonbon, Majborough.....all of which could go Ryanair for him. No doubt there are others as well.
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Beat him 5 length and still pooh poohed the gold cup.
Thats enough for me to be of the opinion they don’t think he can win a gold cup.
I would love to see him In a gold cup too, selfishly,would help my Ryanair bets.
Unfortunately it appears his connections would rather go Ryanair.
 
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Lobos said:
Certainly wouldn't hurt
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It would though wouldn't it ?
It would provide further evidence that he's better over shorter.
Like the other poster said, if winning the Irish Gold cup didn't convince them then nothing will.
No doubt JP and co were very keen to run in the ryanair last season for whatever reason no matter what.
This season could be different but the John Durkan will have nothing to do with it.
 
F2F wasn't even given a Gold Cup entry last season. I'm holding onto hope he'll be given one this if he wins the Irish version again. If he is then that will be a huge pointer. He deserves the chance.

That said, if he gets his ground in March and goes Ryanair again then he's the one to beat.

Someone asked who is currently best value AP bet for the Festival. I was struggling to find one but , if you think he'll definitely go Ryanair then at 5/1 he is definitely it.
 
Quevega said:
It would though wouldn't it ?
It would provide further evidence that he's better over shorter.
Like the other poster said, if winning the Irish Gold cup didn't convince them then nothing will.
No doubt JP and co were very keen to run in the ryanair last season for whatever reason no matter what.
This season could be different but the John Durkan will have nothing to do with it.
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Would it though ? He certainly wasn't stopping in the Irish version and that was run at a furious gallop and he made them look stupid. He powered through the line in deep ground beating all the best Staying chasers. IMO it provided evidence he would get home in a GC. At the time most on here were convinced he'd go GC. JP though hadn't entered him at that point and he stuck by that decision which backfired as F2F was pulled out and he failed to win either race.
Maybe he'll give him his chance this time. Here's hoping.
 
The main thing here is connections not entering him in the gold cup.
Only reason that can be imo is because they think he won’t win the race.
JP would have him in the gold cup for sure if he thought he could win.
 
He did have the reigning champion from the previous season who was a seriously impressive winner of the race so that would have been a big factor for not entering. He doesn't have that luxury this time around.
 
He does have a few young contenders who will run in all the top races so let's see how they perform against the old boy.
 
Lobos said:
He did have the reigning champion from the previous season who was a seriously impressive winner of the race so that would have been a big factor for not entering. He doesn't have that luxury this time around.
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Makes no difference in my opinion.
And he was shite all season in the build up anyway .
 
Lobos said:
He was pretty desperate the year he won it as well.
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End of the day it’s all about what connections do after watching their horses run and how they are working at home, and weighing up their chances with opposition, ground etc
They decided to go Ryanair and didn’t bother entering Gold Cup.
That’s despite winning a big race over 3m.

I ain’t saying it definitely won’t be different next March, especially with the Mullins yard, just that past evidence we have tell’s me they will not go gold cup.
 
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….Mullins ‘older horses’ added to stable tour thread along with a feature from Simon Munir on ‘Double Green’.
 
Cheltenham tomorrow: any one fancy something. I’m interested in Thunder Rock myself. Reverting to hvps after Hunter chasing. Still only a 10 yr old was rated150 at his peak runs here off 134 in vet hcp ch.
 
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