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Festival thoughts. Looking back on the recent festival I noticed that
  • the overall runners reduced from 444 in 2023 to 367 this year, roughly 17% drop. It was interesting that Willie Mullins and Gordon Elliott’s joint contribution to this was 34% (in 2023 it was 28% and in 2022 it was 30%).
  • What is I think significant is that whilst numbers running continue to fall these two stables continue to run similar numbers, at least in the last 2 years.
  • Even though Elliott had a relatively poor return the two stables still managed to win 12 races (9 to 3 in favour of Mullins). This is still close on 43% of the races between them from 34% of the runners.
  • Further analysis of Mullins runners indicates that he had 10 favs under 9/4 with 6 winning. 6 were odds on. Another reason to build books I guess.
 
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Lots of chat about Aintree ground but does anyone a bit further north have a view on Musselburgh and Kelso this weekend (I don't do Twitter)?

My wife and I are members at Musselburgh. The flat meeting being called off last Saturday was a shock (let's put aside the debate about whether they were naive in not calling an inspection on Saturday morning). It's been pissing down again today. We are hoping to go to Musselburgh on Friday and Kelso on Saturday which is a reciprocal, but to be honest I'm thinking we will be relieved if one of them is on
 
Lostinleith said:
Lots of chat about Aintree ground but does anyone a bit further north have a view on Musselburgh and Kelso this weekend (I don't do Twitter)?

My wife and I are members at Musselburgh. The flat meeting being called off last Saturday was a shock (let's put aside the debate about whether they were naive in not calling an inspection on Saturday morning). It's been pissing down again today. We are hoping to go to Musselburgh on Friday and Kelso on Saturday which is a reciprocal, but to be honest I'm thinking we will be relieved if one of them is on
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The rain has been relentless this week hasn’t it?! After Saturday and Sunday being lovely it’s been back to winter. If the rain continues I’d be surprised if Mussy is on. Kelso can go heavy as well so if the borders has had similar rain to the central belt it could fall foul as well.
 
Craigy14 said:
The rain has been relentless this week hasn’t it?! After Saturday and Sunday being lovely it’s been back to winter. If the rain continues I’d be surprised if Mussy is on. Kelso can go heavy as well so if the borders has had similar rain to the central belt it could fall foul as well.
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Lovely in Edinburgh just now. The forecast looks good for today but unfortunately chucking it down tomorrow so doesn't look good. Another potential issue for Kelso is strong winds on Saturday. On our first visit there strong wind led to fences and hurdles being omitted in the home straight, which made the racing a bit of a joke,
 
What bookies now have to win anyrace 2025 up? Sky are getting the axe so looking for someone else,Also is any firm giving the free bet away like sky used to?
 
somer1 said:
What bookies now have to win anyrace 2025 up? Sky are getting the axe so looking for someone else,Also is any firm giving the free bet away like sky used to?
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Paddy got a few prices up but not a lot, betfair sportsbook the same horses and prices, that's it as far as i can see.
 
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Somebody just posted a screenshot on Twitter of Oddschecker demanding a £9.99 per month subscription fee to view the odds :mad::mad:. I assume this will be rolled out fully in the next 24 hours or so before the National meeting starts. I can still get on currently.
 
I can’t get on now, but a mate still can. Will the fee count towards affordability checks?
Tossers
 
Everybody trying to pick the last pieces of flesh from the racing carcass. What the hell is happening to the sport. No doubt every bookmaker on there will be getting their percentage. I don't understand how bookmakers can't see that they are going to go out of business with the things they are doing. Why aren't they shouting from the rooftops to the government.

On another note. My debit card was declined in Ladbrokes yesterday. I took about £2500 out of the shop during Cheltenham and haven't been back in since but decided on cash bets for my National picks. Had to go and draw money out to bet. Don't know if this was just a blip or not but will try again with an ante post bet for Cheltenham in a couple of weeks.

It's getting to the point now where i truly believe next seasons festival will be my last. All eyes on the end of April and what becomes of all of it.
 
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To bypass the oddschecker limit, just open oddschecker in an incognito window of your browser as the limit is determined by your browsers cache.
 
Think I'll have to shell out, as it's too useful and convenient a tool.
whether logged in or out or using the app it don't take long until they are asking me to subscribe.
 
Zachx02 said:
To bypass the oddschecker limit, just open oddschecker in an incognito window of your browser as the limit is determined by your browsers cache.
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:applause: That'll work for a bit, assume this applies to using phone instead of laptop also ?
 
Yosser said:
Everybody trying to pick the last pieces of flesh from the racing carcass. What the hell is happening to the sport. No doubt every bookmaker on there will be getting their percentage. I don't understand how bookmakers can't see that they are going to go out of business with the things they are doing. Why aren't they shouting from the rooftops to the government.

On another note. My debit card was declined in Ladbrokes yesterday. I took about £2500 out of the shop during Cheltenham and haven't been back in since but decided on cash bets for my National picks. Had to go and draw money out to bet. Don't know if this was just a blip or not but will try again with an ante post bet for Cheltenham in a couple of weeks.

It's getting to the point now where i truly believe next seasons festival will be my last. All eyes on the end of April and what becomes of all of it.
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I try to limit single bets to winnings of £500 per shop and only ever place cash bets. Just don't want to run the risk of being restricted in shops too.
 
Zachx02 said:
Yeah I've tried it on both, seems to work fine
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Used it on incognito today and it went off again.
However, deleting history and cache etc, has meant it is back on again, so maybe a regular deletion of history/cache might keep it going for a while.
 
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