General Chat

[Muswell]

Some trainers would need to get a wriggle on

https://status.hri-ras.ie/declaration-status.aspx

 

[robith]

If that Saturday card at DRF was served up in England there would be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth at the state of the game

 

[Lobos]

If that Saturday card at DRF was served up in England there would be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth at the state of the game

Agree. Pretty poor turn out.

 

[FinalFurlong91]

If that Saturday card at DRF was served up in England there would be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth at the state of the game

And imagine how much stick nicky would get if he changed his mind last minute and switched races like Willie has with GW

Most of the things nicky gets stick for Willie does much more often

 

[Lobos]

And imagine how much stick nicky would get if he changed his mind last minute and switched races like Willie has with GW

Most of the things nicky gets stick for Willie does much more often

I'd say the drying ground is the reason he's not in the Arkle.

 

[Quevega]

And imagine how much stick nicky would get if he changed his mind last minute and switched races like Willie has with GW

Most of the things nicky gets stick for Willie does much more often

2 different beasts though.
Mullins is a behemoth with many horses and jockeys to juggle. Much more fluid a situation to manage.
Nicky not so much.

Saying Gaelic was going to run in Irish arkle and then not declare him and run Sunday though is way out of order, although I never saw the direct quotes from the man himself.

 

[Benjy23]

The RP with baseless articles and misleading headlines doesn't help at all. But I think trainers should be encouraged to be more open with running plans than most currently are.

 

[Quevega]

The RP with baseless articles and misleading headlines doesn't help at all. But I think trainers should be encouraged to be more open with running plans than most currently are.

Must be a very tricky job for Mullins though with the sheer numbers involved.
A stone bruise or a cough on declaration morning or a jockey being ill or injured - the weather forecast etc - will all have a domino effect, some owners won't have certain jockeys, some might say they'd rather not run unless so and so is riding etc etc
I think that's why they seem to let him have a bit of dispensation/leeway for naming jockeys sometimes.

Henderson is right on one thing though, it is a Mullins benefit, but he can't help it if Elliott and De Bromhead don't bother with it so much. And the UK trainers ignore it almost completely.

 

[Ballybeen]

Anybody else’s Racing Post showing up yesterdays paper as the latest?

 

[darlojim]

And imagine how much stick nicky would get if he changed his mind last minute and switched races like Willie has with GW

Most of the things nicky gets stick for Willie does much more often

Willie said nothing was set in stone in the interview he gave, following these antepost moves have stung in the past, easy ploy to make quick cash by the bookies.

Tried to give the heads up re Vega:rugby:

 

[Quevega]

Willie said nothing was set in stone in the interview he gave, following these antepost moves have stung in the past, easy ploy to make quick cash by the bookies.

Tried to give the heads up re Vega:rugby:

Was 20-1 at one point :applause:

 

[darlojim]

Was 20-1 at one point :applause:

And guess what silly twat didn't bother taking it:lemo:

 

[Lobos]

Willie said nothing was set in stone in the interview he gave, following these antepost moves have stung in the past, easy ploy to make quick cash by the bookies.

Tried to give the heads up re Vega:rugby:

Imagine if he goes and beats Marine......

The scenes!!!!!

Wouldn't put it past him.

 

[Quevega]

And guess what silly twat didn't bother taking it:lemo:

Tough to chance it though, every year it happens.

It's a good sign his work is good as I'd assumed he would run them both.
it makes me wonder if one of the stayers is not working as well and that's swayed him on Gaelic also.

Hopefully he gives Marine a good race and then we can have round 2 in March.

Shame Gaelic not running though as that would have been one of the more interesting races of the season IMO

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

Must be a very tricky job for Mullins though with the sheer numbers involved.
A stone bruise or a cough on declaration morning or a jockey being ill or injured - the weather forecast etc - will all have a domino effect, some owners won't have certain jockeys, some might say they'd rather not run unless so and so is riding etc etc
I think that's why they seem to let him have a bit of dispensation/leeway for naming jockeys sometimes.

Henderson is right on one thing though, it is a Mullins benefit, but he can't help it if Elliott and De Bromhead don't bother with it so much. And the UK trainers ignore it almost completely.

I wonder if they really thought the UK trainers would support the DRF when they invented it.
To do that the likes of Hendo, Nicholls etc would have to stop going to Cheltenham for trials day, and various meetings at Ascot, Kempton and Sandown eg, during Jan/ Feb.
Never going to happen imo and no surprise it ain’t imo.

Am a bit surprised the other top Irish aren’t supporting it as I thought they would though.

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

Imagine if he goes and beats Marine......

The scenes!!!!!

Wouldn't put it past him.

There’s going to have to be a big difference in the way both performed last time I saw them, for that to happen.

 

[Lobos]

There’s going to have to be a big difference in the way both performed last time I saw them, for that to happen.

Depends if the real Vega turns up. Mullins still clearly keeping the faith. Marine was very Impressive on debut but this is a big step up from that race.

 

[Quevega]

I wonder if they really thought the UK trainers would support the DRF when they invented it.
To do that the likes of Hendo, Nicholls etc would have to stop going to Cheltenham for trials day, and various meetings at Ascot, Kempton and Sandown eg, during Jan/ Feb.
Never going to happen imo and no surprise it ain’t imo.

Am a bit surprised the other top Irish aren’t supporting it as I thought they would though.

I'm not sure they care. 30% of UK fans bought tickets though.

Trials day has been a shit show for a while now and only improved recently with the Bula moving and the luck with the Clarence house being rearranged 2 years running.

I think they should move the Mares Hurdle to trials day and the Mares chase. :encouragement:

That would force the better mares into the big ones in March but still have their own race on a big weekend or day of racing.

Unfortunately, the Mullins domination in Dublin - I think it's simply because they (UK and other top Irish trainers) don't think they'll win.

 

[Carnage at Taunton]

I'm not sure they care. 30% of UK fans bought tickets though.

Trials day has been a shit show for a while now and only improved recently with the Bula moving and the luck with the Clarence house being rearranged 2 years running.

I think they should move the Mares Hurdle to trials day and the Mares chase. :encouragement:

That would force the better mares into the big ones in March but still have their own race on a big weekend or day of racing.

Unfortunately, the Mullins domination in Dublin - I think it's simply because they (UK and other top Irish trainers) don't think they'll win.

There’s probably a few things that could be done in an attempt to improve meetings/races at the top level .
Until we get to a stage where their are a actually more Grade 1 horses than Grade 1 races though, not sure what can be done.
We are seeing more and more top races with only one Grade 1 horse, and even the Cheltenham Festival has some races with one or maybe two.

As for Dublin, yes definitely an element of not thinking they can win, and with re the ones that they think they can win with, the top uk trainers would rather run in the Grade 1’s in the UK, and not just cos it’s easier, but it’s also cos the tracks need supporting.
For me personally I love to go to the good tracks around the London area, but more and more I find myself going to watch the top uk horses(if they are allowed to run), and sometimes Irish if I’m lucky, running against small runner fields in which only 1 or 2 can realistically win the race.

More I think by about it the more I think we’ve collectively created a monster in the Chelt Festival.
Its become so big that everything else suffers.

 

[Lobos]

Delta Work Update...........

“He was lame after Cheltenham and is OK again now,” said Eddie O’Leary of owners Gigginstown House Stud.

“The plan is to go Boyne Hurdle, Cross Country at Cheltenham and then Grand National.

“Everything is fine at the moment but he was sore after (his run at Cheltenham). Hopefully we see him at Navan.”
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