General Chat

[robith]

Cheltmental & Finishing Line done a Collab tonight for trials day, basically Dave stuck up a few long shots, and some were questionable, but got cut down over and over again, just skip to the last 2 mins of the stream and Dave had enough and snapped basically and cut the stream dead on an awkward atmosphere... Good for him though, Halligan coming across fairly awful again.

Looked it up and watched how it finished, what a remarkably patient man, that was pretty dignified given how those others were carrying on

 

[HesTheOne]

Cheltmental & Finishing Line done a Collab tonight for trials day, basically Dave stuck up a few long shots, and some were questionable, but got cut down over and over again, just skip to the last 2 mins of the stream and Dave had enough and snapped basically and cut the stream dead on an awkward atmosphere... Good for him though, Halligan coming across fairly awful again.

Yea not nice carry on at all, finishingline are unbearable to listen to. Back of the class knuckle draggers

 

[Exar Essay]

Finishing Line is a shocking watch. I do really like Sean but not enough to tolerate the two 'hosts' or the other chump. Mind you Sean has let himself down there. Boring and snide. The worst of Antepost podcasts. Good on Dave.

 

[Dandrew99]

Does anyone know the remaining milestone dates off the top of their head?

Handicap entries, weights, etc?

 

[Eggs]

….Klopp leaving LFC at the end of the season is a bit of non-racing news that just broke.

 

[Lobos]

Taking over at Bristol City apparently. He needs a challenge

 

[Quevega]

Cheltmental & Finishing Line done a Collab tonight for trials day, basically Dave stuck up a few long shots, and some were questionable, but got cut down over and over again, just skip to the last 2 mins of the stream and Dave had enough and snapped basically and cut the stream dead on an awkward atmosphere... Good for him though, Halligan coming across fairly awful again.

Watched it all for context, and he just got fed up didn't he ?

His mate Jamie let him down a bit IMO. He seems a nice enough guy but his hubris bubbles over every now and then.

The other lads were just being their normal self's though (whose banter can get tiresome if not done with enough skill), Like younger annoying brothers repeating catchphrases from the telly incessantly. I think their mate Tom's not bothering so much these days as he's a bit tired of it also.

and Dave maybe should have lasted it out just a bit more, then not bothered with them much in future.

I like them all though, and good luck to them for getting out there and doing stuff they like doing.

 

[Big Bucks]

Watched it all for context, and he just got fed up didn't he ?

His mate Jamie let him down a bit IMO. He seems a nice enough guy but his hubris bubbles over every now and then.

The other lads were just being their normal self's though (whose banter can get tiresome if not done with enough skill), Like younger annoying brothers repeating catchphrases from the telly incessantly. I think their mate Tom's not bothering so much these days as he's a bit tired of it also.

and Dave maybe should have lasted it out just a bit more, then not bothered with them much in future.

I like them all though, and good luck to them for getting out there and doing stuff they like doing.

I can't be bothered listening to it all for full context, so my opinion doesn't have the full facts and what not, so please feel free to add comments or differ to my thoughts if you wish. But I Listened to the last 20mins there, and think Dave took it really bad and threw a strop? Now if they where doing it throughout the video at every selection and say was more of "bullying" than a bit of banter then could maybe justify his reaction, but I think they where just giving him a hard time in no malicious way imo in that last race i listened to. Can anyone add anymore to it? Obviously I don't know any of them, listened to alot of the Finishing line last year, but haven't this year, but as Q says I think that's just the way they act/get on, just ripping into each other as mates.

 

[Quevega]

I can't be bothered listening to it all for full context, so my opinion doesn't have the full facts and what not, so please feel free to add comments or differ to my thoughts if you wish. But I Listened to the last 20mins there, and think Dave took it really bad and threw a strop? Now if they where doing it throughout the video at every selection and say was more of "bullying" than a bit of banter then could maybe justify his reaction, but I think they where just giving him a hard time in no malicious way imo in that last race i listened to. Can anyone add anymore to it? Obviously I don't know any of them, listened to alot of the Finishing line last year, but haven't this year, but as Q says I think that's just the way they act/get on, just ripping into each other as mates.

Yeah they just wore him down, and offered nothing in the middle ground which is where Jamie could have helped.
He should also have seen the signs that Dave was feeling it.
And Dave will be regretting his strop I'm sure, but he seems balanced enough to get over it and put it in perspective, after he's slept on it.

 

[Exar Essay]

No Caldwell horses will run between now and the sale. Which means the DRF is out. That will clearly affect many a race plan, but particularly the potential handicappers e.g. Might Bandit.

 

[PresentingPercy]

Just an FYI, all the Caldwell horses going to sale in Feb will not run between now and then (Caldwell Potter etc) according to Nick Luck. No DRF etc.
https://twitter.com/nickluck/status/1750853880345190850

Highly likely they will be taken out of training until then IMO so as to not risk injury, cut costs etc. Big negative in my eyes for any of their horses

 

[Exar Essay]

No Caldwell horses will run between now and the sale. Which means the DRF is out. That will clearly affect many a race plan, but particularly the potential handicappers e.g. Might Bandit.

Just read no private sales allowed either! This is starting to look like a bit of a Gordon issue as that stops him from selling to another owner in the yard which would allow him continuity at this important time of the year. Fully accept I might be putting 2 + 2 together and getting 5.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Just read no private sales allowed either! This is starting to look like a bit of a Gordon issue as that stops him from selling to another owner in the yard which would allow him continuity at this important time of the year. Fully accept I might be putting 2 + 2 together and getting 5.

It could be that they want them to go to the sales to guarantee the best price though. Agreeing private fees now could mean they risk taking a price lower than they could have got through the ring. If someone is interested in one of the horses privately, they'll likely still bid at the sales too and have competition driving the price no doubt. Gordon could still end up with the horses so I'm not sure they're blocking him in any way.

 

[PresentingPercy]

Just read no private sales allowed either! This is starting to look like a bit of a Gordon issue as that stops him from selling to another owner in the yard which would allow him continuity at this important time of the year. Fully accept I might be putting 2 + 2 together and getting 5.

Just screams the tax man catching up on them IMO, wants all sales to go through the appropriate channels with no underarm and side payments which is prevalent in this industry. Why would you look to sell now also when you are getting to the business end of the season, could wait until end of the season or phase it out over time.

 

[Exar Essay]

It could be that they want them to go to the sales to guarantee the best price though. Agreeing private fees now could mean they risk taking a price lower than they could have got through the ring. If someone is interested in one of the horses privately, they'll likely still bid at the sales too and have competition driving the price no doubt. Gordon could still end up with the horses so I'm not sure they're blocking him in any way.

I suppose so, but as we know, private sales can often get much larger fees as owners don't want the competition. I don't see why they wouldn't at least entertain an offer. Would JP pay over the odds for say Mighty Bandit as a potential Boodles horse?

They could just be washing their hands of everything in the most efficient way possible and that would be to take the phone off the hook for 2 weeks and then spend one day selling them all.

 

[JackieMoon33]

I suppose so, but as we know, private sales can often get much larger fees as owners don't want the competition. I don't see why they wouldn't at least entertain an offer. Would JP pay over the odds for say Mighty Bandit as a potential Boodles horse?

They could just be washing their hands of everything in the most efficient way possible and that would be to take the phone off the hook for 2 weeks and then spend one day selling them all.

Certainly more to it than known at present that's for sure.

 

[HesTheOne]

Certainly more to it than known at present that's for sure.

Do you think? Kinda took their word for it from the statement i.e family can’t take the deaths anymore.

Can understand if they had young kids in the family witnessing any of the deaths that could be very distressing and they would feel some blame for that, right of wrong.

Didn’t look into it myself but others have and pretty sure the are still very financially strong ain’t not money issue.

Suppose if ya had the wife onto ya for spending couple 100k at sales and then kids onto ya when they break down it would be a no brainier.

 

[That Horse]

….Klopp leaving LFC at the end of the season is a bit of non-racing news that just broke.

Proper punch in the dick that news, gutted is an understatement.

Sly Sports will be unbearable over the rest of the season about it as well.

​​​​​​Hopefully, he's leaving with a few more trophies come May/June

Up the Reds

 

[DenmanSacre]

There's no private sales as Tatts will get a share of the fee now anyway seeing as they've advertised the lot of them. Private sale probably isn't going to get them the best price.

It would be good to know if their horses are also out of training. If they're doing light work, then that's not really a problem with a focus on Cheltenham. Mighty Bandit I suppose will only go to the Triumph now, if at all going to Cheltenham depending on the owner

The ones to keep an eye on will be the ones Gordon keeps with his usual owners. If some of them leave the yard and the bidding isn't competitive, Gordon probably doesn't fancy them to win a decent pot for the new owners.

 

[Exar Essay]

It would be good to know if their horses are also out of training. If they're doing light work, then that's not really a problem with a focus on Cheltenham. Mighty Bandit I suppose will only go to the Triumph now, if at all going to Cheltenham depending on the owner

I thought that and posted it too. But I suppose there is every chance, as long as he is still in work, that Mighty Bandit runs in the famous 4yo Naas race which has spawned so many Boodles winners and which is the weekend following the DRF and fire sale.