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Paddy Power have adjusted the runners for the Big 3 grade on entries now, if you want to see who's still in.
The main racing sites have done articles but not yet got the lists up in full
 
Irish Rugby said:
I just don't think JP/Willie will divert Dinoblue to the Champion. Willie has El Fab/JP has Jonbon. Surely, they'll see Dinoblue as a combined penalty kick for the Mares Chase, although that needs to be caveated as there are rightly doubts over the trip.
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If Dinoblue wins the 2M at the DRF do most still think they will send her to the mares chase?

She'd deserve to be a hot fav for that race given the likely opposition at the DRF

I took a strong position on her over the past few months for the mares race but now very concerned she could go for the champion chase.​
 
FredFlintstone said:
If Dinoblue wins the 2M at the DRF do most still think they will send her to the mares chase?

She'd deserve to be a hot fav for that race given the likely opposition at the DRF

I took a strong position on her over the past few months for the mares race but now very concerned she could go for the champion chase.​
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I think she’ll go for the mares chase providing el fab and jonbon are both fit and well. An injury to either and there’s a good chance she could reroute.
 
You'd want to see an entry for Dinoblue over something approaching the Mares Chase distance to have confidence that she'd go down that route imo. She's had 9 chase runs so far, all over the minimum distance and the only time she's ever run beyond 2 1/2 miles over Hurdles she got beaten into 4th. Not good reading.
 
Lobos said:
the only time she's ever run beyond 2 1/2 miles over Hurdles she got beaten into 4th. Not good reading.
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She was beaten worse over 2 miles before the Fairyhouse run. Just a measure of where she was at the time. She was only just getting going over 2 miles at Naas this season and, being more mature now, is for me probably (but not certainly) likely to be better over a trip than at the minimum distance these days.
 
ADV completely flumping again could be seen as a positive for Dinoblue going Mares Chase . However, Willie has Hauturiere for the race as well after her demolition job last time and JP has Limerick Lace for the race so they could send Dinoblue to the Champion Chase and still both have serious chances of winning the final race of the meeting. Dinoblue has been very well backed over the last few days from a high of 33's into a high of just 12's today.
 
That will be because she has an entry. I'd have thought that more money was involved in cutting her to 7/4 from 7/2 for the Mares.

As has been said before, if El Fabiolo has a problem then it's likely she'll run in the Champion but Willie is all about winners and she represents his best chance in the other race.
 
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Odds dropped before entries Archie so can't put it entirely down to that. Take EF and Bonjovi out and what are you left with in the CC ?.........very little. 3rd place is up for grabs without a doubt and maybe higher should either of the front two miss the race or should something go wrong for them in it. She's very good cover for both Willie and JP. I'm not convinced she is Willie's or JP's best shot in the Mares Chase as she's yet to prove herself over 2 1/2 and the lure of the prize pot in the CC plus the prestige of placing in that race may outweigh the values of the Mares Chase.

P.S. The cut in the MC was down to ADV flumping.
 
Any news at all on Lossiemouth or Gala Marceau?? No sign of them yet. Neither took up their Relkeel entries. Where are we likely to see them ?
 
Leaving current 20-1 shot Hauturiere as his main dart would seem unlike WPM wouldn't it?

As for Dinoblue, i think Gentleman De Mee is as good a 2nd option as her. He's ran to a higher level and only reappearing last week on ground too soft. RPR 161 vs 164 Dinoblue. Perhaps she's still improving and is more consistent? However, if you are wanting to spread your bullets, GDM>CC and Dinoblue Mares is the way to go. Agree though you'd like to see her maybe tried over a bit further to be confident especially with stout stayers among the MC candidates
 
I assume ADV will still go along with Hauturiere and Instit and Brandy Love has a chase entry at the weekend so there's 4 for starters.
 
Lobos said:
Any news at all on Lossiemouth or Gala Marceau?? No sign of them yet. Neither took up their Relkeel entries. Where are we likely to see them ?
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Not other than the entries for the Relkeel which they didnt take up

Potential targets for the top two in the market
- Quevega Mares Hurdle the most likely option
- Warwick have a listed mares aswell, but not sure whether Willie will want to come over for that
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Willie did say he wanted to wait until xmas/new year with these two, but he is leaving it late isnt he
 
opatcho said:
Not other than the entries for the Relkeel which they didnt take up

Potential targets for the top two in the market
- Quevega Mares Hurdle the most likely option
- Warwick have a listed mares aswell, but not sure whether Willie will want to come over for that
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Willie did say he wanted to wait until xmas/new year with these two, but he is leaving it late isnt he
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Willie has sent some over in late January for a g2 at Doncaster over 2m in the past I wonder whether that could be a option for one of them?
 
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opatcho said:
Not other than the entries for the Relkeel which they didnt take up

Potential targets for the top two in the market
- Quevega Mares Hurdle the most likely option
- Warwick have a listed mares aswell, but not sure whether Willie will want to come over for that
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Willie did say he wanted to wait until xmas/new year with these two, but he is leaving it late isnt he
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see Lossiemouth line up in the Irish Champion Hurdle as a prep race for the Mares Hurdle
 
Both Lossiemouth and Gala Marceau's price have remained steady these last few months which gives enough confidence they're both OK and we'll see them very soon.
 
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Liammet said:
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Lossiemouth line up in the Irish Champion Hurdle as a prep race for the Mares Hurdle
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With IEP likely going Stayers, if she ran well in the Irish Champion could she go to the English version?
 
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