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Six sounds a decent return to me. I've not looked at this at all but I'd imagine it's about the point where you could back favs blind now for level returns and would only need six winners...




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Six sounds a decent return to me. I've not looked at this at all but I'd imagine it's about the point where you could back favs blind now for level returns and would only need six winners...




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19 races. Ummmm, not sure. Depends which 6. Wouldn't want to go down that route but maybe make a note now and review after Fez. Could work. Could be a future plan. Back 19 blind on 6th December every year !
 
I've just had a look, I'm not sure why, but the answer is five at the moment would return a profit. And no it doesn't matter which five as I've varied stakes for level returns on each race. So you can have Constitution Hill, El Fabiola and whatever other three you want...

It's not a strategy I'm suggesting. I'm just saying only fancying four favourites at this stage isn't as crazy as you're making it sound. If it was that easy we should all be doing the above!
 
I've just had a look, I'm not sure why, but the answer is five at the moment would return a profit. And no it doesn't matter which five as I've varied stakes for level returns on each race. So you can have Constitution Hill, El Fabiola and whatever other three you want...

It's not a strategy I'm suggesting. I'm just saying only fancying four favourites at this stage isn't as crazy as you're making it sound. If it was that easy we should all be doing the above!

I think Lobos is meaning what favs he has backed Benjy, not what favs he thinks wins.
 
I think Lobos is meaning what favs he has backed Benjy, not what favs he thinks wins.

Correct. They weren't Favs at the time of backing but are now. Those 4 may not end up fav and others I have backed will but I found it an interesting exercise nonetheless and it certainly gets you thinking.
 
Fair enough. My first thought is I'm not sure he should back them if he doesn't think they'll win... But I know a lot of people have many selections in the same race. So I guess they can't all win! :chuncky:

If you're 'building books' in every race and only have four favs then yea, it's probably a fair time to be concerned. :onthego:
 
Anything I back I back because I see them as winners. I'm not a book builder........well, not by choice and I don't have cash out options so I'm very limited.
 
Anything I back I back because I see them as winners. I'm not a book builder........well, not by choice and I don't have cash out options so I'm very limited.

You saying you're not a book builder but not getting involved in the One Race - One Horse is the worst :concern:
I'd put you as one of the favs to win it!



Whilst I'm being kind for no reason, https://www.fatjockey.com/forum/fat...olster-s-2024-antepost-diary/page5#post441032 The Giant Bolster's diary is one of the best I've seen (we have a lot of excellent ones and it's only my ignorance that I've not read sooner) but well worth a read - a lot of good, well thought out angles.

I've placed 3 bets myself after reading through
 
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Peter Fahey namechecked The County for The Big Doyen
 
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Wouldnt be a bad idea to get the Odds movement thread back up and running imo. Few which have been shortened by PP/BF today


Jeriko - Supreme
Cocooner - NHC
Romeo - Bumper
SAF - BANC
Envoi - Ryanair
Majborough - Triumph
Gino - Triumph
Kala - Triumph
Instit - Mares Chase​
 
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How is romeo coolio

A horse who has had a setback fav for the bumper

Mental

Josh on lets talk racing seems to talk him up on every episode
 
How is romeo coolio

A horse who has had a setback fav for the bumper

Mental

Josh on lets talk racing seems to talk him up on every episode

I think you have kind of answered your own question with one of the factors. If he is mentioning it so frequently and with his followers who i believe go in blind surely that is a reason?

Not only him who has talked him up though and before down royal was called off he was a Gordy Tremd horse with his entry which is another factor imo.
 
Wouldnt be a bad idea to get the Odds movement thread back up and running imo. Few which have been shortened by PP/BF today


Jeriko - Supreme
Cocooner - NHC
Romeo - Bumper
SAF - BANC
Envoi - Ryanair
Majborough - Triumph
Gino - Triumph
Kala - Triumph
Instit - Mares Chase​

​​​We need Dandrew99 back to do his spreadshitery. He was mustard at that sort of thing.
 
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Just an aside for all the old farts. The new clerk of the course at Cheltenham will no longer let any spectators into the middle of the course to watch any race at any meeting
 
Just an aside for all the old farts. The new clerk of the course at Cheltenham will no longer let any spectators into the middle of the course to watch any race at any meeting

:applause: Love how that's aimed at the old farts.:highly_amused:
Was gonna try and do it this year as well :crushed:
 
I loved to watch cross country race by the cheese wedges. No longer allowed. Even went down to see the chasers at second last.,computer says no now!!
 
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I loved to watch cross country race by the cheese wedges. No longer allowed. Even went down to see the chasers at second last.,computer says no now!!

I've never ventured much, but did go and watch a listed hurdle at the second last fence on Paddy Power Gold cup day 2021.
I'd had Proschema in a double with Midnight Shadow and stood to win a nice bit.

He Obviously fell at the second last travelling well :highly_amused:
In front of my very eyes.

The wife said, "is that your horse" ?
I was kneeling down by this stage:blue: So she got a look :rolleyes:

She said a similar thing when at Punchestown once when Al Boum Photo ran out before the last :highly_amused:
 
I loved to watch cross country race by the cheese wedges. No longer allowed. Even went down to see the chasers at second last.,computer says no now!!

Is that a permanent decision GV ?
They've not allowed you onto the middle of the course since covid but I assume that's been because of the ground.
I used to watch a couple of regulation races from the middle, loved it, completely different perspective from there, such a shame if it's a permanent no....

edit - just seen your previous post
 
I know it is a small sample size and probably nothing in it but has anyone noticed Nicky’s horses traveling well and emptying very quickly over the last week ?
some strongly fancied horses among them
 
I know it is a small sample size and probably nothing in it but has anyone noticed Nicky’s horses traveling well and emptying very quickly over the last week ?
some strongly fancied horses among them

Agree. There has been a few and very well fancied ones too.