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Captain Chris said:
I guess it depends on what one defines as not good enough. 3rd in the race last year, won a grade 1 less than 12 months ago and just beaten 1 length in another despite it being the wrong way round. If Conflated is ducking it, then we may as well just have Galopin running round on his own. Grade 1 horses should run in grade 1 races imo. The XC has been ruined since being converted from a handicap. I didn't find today's race overly enthralling, but at least there could be a reasonable discussion on who wins it. In March, Elliott will and it'll be his horses 30 lengths clear of the rest
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Yep, a yawn fest for me now.
At least with the time it takes, can go sit in the garden and light up a Cuban…….hopefully it won’t be raining!!
Then back indoors for a proper race.
 
Captain Chris said:
I guess it depends on what one defines as not good enough. 3rd in the race last year, won a grade 1 less than 12 months ago and just beaten 1 length in another despite it being the wrong way round. If Conflated is ducking it, then we may as well just have Galopin running round on his own. Grade 1 horses should run in grade 1 races imo. The XC has been ruined since being converted from a handicap. I didn't find today's race overly enthralling, but at least there could be a reasonable discussion on who wins it. In March, Elliott will and it'll be his horses 30 lengths clear of the rest
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Conflated isn’t going to win the gold cup though is he? I don’t see anything wrong in giving these horses a realistic race they can win. I know conflated isn’t really a back number but a year older he’s unlikely to better his gold cup third. There’s plenty of novices that come through the ranks each season to fill the void of the older generation running in the xc. I’d rather watch Galvin, delta work, minella indo and conflated run against each other than just be in the gold cup to make up the numbers.
 
Brooksie said:
I'm with you on this, there's so much hate for the cross country chase...I really don't get it. The whole game began racing church to church jumping banks, ditches, brooks, streams and god knows what else. Zero problem with ex gold cup horses like delta work, galvin and minella indo taking these types of races in, especially if they're enjoying the change of pace. Realistically the alternative is getting detached in a gold cup and being pulled up down the back, or worse coming down and bringing something down that had a genuine chance. Completely agree, let them have their race.
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When they get old enough that it kind of equals out, maybe, but Conflated has just ran the Gold Cup much fancied 2nd fav to a length.

Should be in the Ryanair imo
 
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riccirich said:
Nobody cares who wins the bingo though, it's just a social event and an excuse to get out of the house. At least if you go down to the local and get battered people will have some respect for you, like he's out of his depth but at least he's giving it a go. And if you die you go down swinging with a smile on your face, a good death.
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These horses have a multitude of races they can run in and win. Conflated won a bloody Savills 11 months ago!

If they're going to keep allowing these types to drop, at least introduce a qualification limitation like the Foxhunters so anything with a G1 win in the preceeding season is excluded.

The 'problem' is that those races aren't in that four day period in March. When the prospect of a place in the Gold Cup is less attractive than winning the X-Country, you're in bother.
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When does it stop? If Conflated takes the route, Gordon will have sent 4/6 of his highest rated horses he's ever trained down the X-Country route. That's insane.
 
Bonjers said:
These horses have a multitude of races they can run in and win. Conflated won a bloody Savills 11 months ago!

If they're going to keep allowing these types to drop, at least introduce a qualification limitation like the Foxhunters so anything with a G1 win in the preceeding season is excluded.

The 'problem' is that those races aren't in that four day period in March. When the prospect of a place in the Gold Cup is less attractive than winning the X-Country, you're in bother.
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When does it stop? If Conflated takes the route, Gordon will have sent 4/6 of his highest rated horses he's ever trained down the X-Country route. That's insane.
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Elliott is winning the x country with or without Conflated in it,I think we can all agree on that

The most important part is that it is a tried and successfully tested route to the Grand National

That is why he is considering it for Conflated and in my opinion will make the race more interesting/watchable
 
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Go on Bob!! Travelled beautifully but when he was headed by Zanahiyr it seemed the writing was in the wall and he just doesn't like to race anymore. And then he knuckled down. Awesome!
 
Hopefully he progresses from today but Bob travelled very well. He's just tripless really over hurdles with there not being many open grade 1 two and a half mile races to aim him at (and he's not entered for the Hattons Grace) but maybe he will see out the 3m.
 
Great to see Bob winning today (didnt know which thread to put this in....)
However, he still looks like he has a physically problem, head comes up after hurdling, and he's leaning around, but finally seeing him put his head back down and win

Pleased for connections. HDB quick fix double there with Capt Guinness
 
Bigcitylights, the big Irish PTP talking horse, falls 4 out today. Asking price reportedly over €500k. Wonder if one of the big owners will buy him anyway.
 
DenmanSacre said:
Bigcitylights, the big Irish PTP talking horse, falls 4 out today. Asking price reportedly over €500k. Wonder if one of the big owners will buy him anyway.
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Do we know if he was purchased before? A lot of the talking horses seem to be these days
 
DenmanSacre said:
Bigcitylights, the big Irish PTP talking horse, falls 4 out today. Asking price reportedly over €500k. Wonder if one of the big owners will buy him anyway.
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Yea seen Ollie Harris on Twitter say the rumour was 700k.

JP picked up Quantum Boy the half brother to BMG the other day. Reportedly similar a range of 650-700k.
 
HesTheOne said:
Yea seen Ollie Harris on Twitter say the rumour was 700k.

JP picked up Quantum Boy the half brother to BMG the other day. Reportedly similar a range of 650-700k.
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Guessing he's going to Mullins?
 
DenmanSacre said:
No idea. May have had a buyer ready if he won. As HesTheOne says, some on Twitter saying 700k was quoted for him. Crazy money.
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Michael Looby said the Twitter rumours over astronomical price were garbage and I trust him over most.
 
…..just ordered my IJF Christmas cards and calendar.
 
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Hendo having a racecourse gallop for some of his. Nico on Dusart and James Bowen on Jeriko Du Reponet in a double group. Would Nico not be riding his better ones?
 
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