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nortonscoin200 Captain Chris

I agree with both of you - and there's definitely an angle that it means he can't run the horse questionably like he's also done with cap du Nord - but there's a fair argument a horse who wins/comes close in those races should be able to get in off a mark they can win off - in kitty's case I reckon that's around 142 which won't happen this year. Otherwise it just becomes a handicap for those just short of G1 standard as Archie suggested
 
Odin said:
nortonscoin200 Captain Chris

I agree with both of you - and there's definitely an angle that it means he can't run the horse questionably like he's also done with cap du Nord - but there's a fair argument a horse who wins/comes close in those races should be able to get in off a mark they can win off - in kitty's case I reckon that's around 142 which won't happen this year. Otherwise it just becomes a handicap for those just short of G1 standard as Archie suggested
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How about a selection of win and you're in races spread throughout the year? When I thought of this before, I think I had 10 races that could fit the bill although struggling to remember them all now but here goes...
Previous year's Scottish + Irish national
Hennessy
Welsh National
Eider
Classic chase
GN trial + have one in Ireland?
Becher

Maybe there were only ever 8, but I think it would help to raise the standard of those events
 
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Captain Chris said:
How about a selection of win and you're in races spread throughout the year? When I thought of this before, I think I had 10 races that could fit the bill although struggling to remember them all now but here goes...
Previous year's Scottish + Irish national
Hennessy
Welsh National
Eider
Classic chase
GN trial + have one in Ireland?
Becher

Maybe there were only ever 8, but I think it would help to raise the standard of those events
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Yeah I like that - a lot like they're doing with the Ebor/Breeders Cup, makes a lot of sense. I'd also suggest for right or wrong that the horse can run off the mark it wins those races off plus a penalty (potentially with minimum weight 10-0 so they may end up overweight with respect to that, but keeps them in the handicap)
 
Exar Essay said:
Crap. I'm 7/8 pts down in the Turner's already with Good Lane, IEP and Irish point. :boxing::boxing::boxing::boxing:
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I am in the same position and on the same three horses and what is really annoying is that I told myself in April to stay away from the Turners and Ballymore until January 2024 because they are such unreliable races for Antepost betting. I knew it and I still couldn't resist. Will I ever learn !
 
Odin said:
Yeah I like that - a lot like they're doing with the Ebor/Breeders Cup, makes a lot of sense. I'd also suggest for right or wrong that the horse can run off the mark it wins those races off plus a penalty (potentially with minimum weight 10-0 so they may end up overweight with respect to that, but keeps them in the handicap)
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Completely agree. A standard 7lb penalty or something of the like for the races later in the year. There's so much that could be done to improve the programme, but I'm not convinced those at the top have the imagination or desire to really do it
 
Istabraq said:
Bit of a discussion in another thread about a new bookmaker that has appeared, BetMGM
Checked out their ownership and found this, which is encouraging:



In the US, BetMGM is a 50-50 joint venture owned by MGM Resorts and Entain. However, Entain is not involved in the BetMGM UK launch.

This means that BetMGM UK will be directly competing with Entain’s UK brands. Entain owns some of the UK’s leading gaming brands, including Ladbrokes, Gala and Coral, as well as leading European names such as Bwin and Eurobet.
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Opened an account with Bet MGM and within a week, I’ve been restricted.

I secured a ?5 FREE bet today and they’d only let me use 65p of it on a 12/1 shot! :boxing:

Another joke of a bookmaker.

(for context, I’ve placed small stakes on football and horses, marginally up, but not much)
 
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Leman14 said:
Opened an account with Bet MGM and within a week, I’ve been restricted.

I secured a ?5 FREE bet today and they’d only let me use 65p of it on a 12/1 shot! :boxing:

Another joke of a bookmaker.

(for context, I’ve placed small stakes on football and horses, marginally up, but not much)
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Wouldn't it be nice if the government looked into these bookies restricting and banning people for having the audacity not to lose instead of these ridiculous affordability checks, pathetic !
 
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Leman14 said:
Opened an account with Bet MGM and within a week, I’ve been restricted.

I secured a ?5 FREE bet today and they’d only let me use 65p of it on a 12/1 shot! :boxing:

Another joke of a bookmaker.

(for context, I’ve placed small stakes on football and horses, marginally up, but not much)
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry, this is a US bookmaker that presumably will be operating to US policy, must have recruited entire UK industry staff that are used to rolling out restriction at will.
Just sad...
 
Istabraq said:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, this is a US bookmaker that presumably will be operating to US policy, must have recruited entire UK industry staff that are used to rolling out restriction at will.
Just sad...
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From following the sportsbook subreddit on reddit, they seem to employ the same procedure of banning winners over there than here
 
Nothing race or horse related - only a random message to say...as the cold nights draw in and the ground gets softer - it's time for the season we all love to begin properly. Just wanted to say thanks to all on here and show gratitude to the FJ forum generally. I am excited for the next roller coaster of a season and to watch all of the debate and (immense) shouts unfold in this forum. This site is often the first and last thing I check either side of going to sleep - make of that what you will!

Given I have a 5 month old and a 3 year old, my ability to properly get stuck in and comment a lot is limited for now. I don't have a diary this year as just know wouldn't keep it updated properly - but love following everyone's on here and taking inspiration from all the posts.

Hopefully catch some of you round tracks this season, and also at the fez itself. Cheers again. Be seeing you. Knock.
 
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Do the morse code and kalendar only appear via email or online now? I miss a glossy for a bit :watermelon:of toilet reading
 
Betfair Chase favoured for Bravemansgame reintroduction


“It is highly likely he will start this season in the Betfair Chase at Haydock which has been a brilliant race for me with horses like Kauto Star and Silviniaco Conti and the timing is ideal ahead of the King George VI Chase at Kempton,” said Nicholls.

“He is ticking over and could be ready for the Charlie Hall at Wetherby if the ground was suitable but we are leaning towards Haydock. It is an extremely valuable pot and Bravemansgame has won at the track.

“The ground at Wetherby was only just ok for him last year and we don’t want to be taking any chances. To keep our options open, we will probably give him an entry, too, in the Coral Gold Cup at Newbury. It would be a tough ask for him off a mark of 172 but Denman won it off 174.”
 
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Stage Star...

“He isn’t the easiest to place but is brilliant fresh and goes straight to the Paddy Power Gold Cup at Cheltenham. We will then make a plan with the Ryanair Chase at the Festival a likely target in the spring. I don’t rule out a step up to three miles for him at some stage,” said Nicholls.
 
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I'm quite curious about two horses I'm pretty sure no one will be talking about based on last seasons performances:
  • Lisnagar Fortune
  • Quais De Paris
Both ran for Willie Mullins on New year's day at Tramore, a track where he typically runs his nicer types.

Lisnagar Fortune flopped, Quais De Paris won in workman like fashion and then ran a stinker in the grade 1 at the Dublin Racing Festival.

Has anyone heard anything about either horse?

A part of me things the latter will make a lovely chaser over the middle distance.
 
JamieSensible said:
I'm quite curious about two horses I'm pretty sure no one will be talking about based on last seasons performances:
  • Lisnagar Fortune
  • Quais De Paris
Both ran for Willie Mullins on New year's day at Tramore, a track where he typically runs his nicer types.

Lisnagar Fortune flopped, Quais De Paris won in workman like fashion and then ran a stinker in the grade 1 at the Dublin Racing Festival.

Has anyone heard anything about either horse?

A part of me things the latter will make a lovely chaser over the middle distance.
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Quais De Paris was a bit of a talking horse last season but after seeing his debut, he looked like a big whopper that would be better for fences. He didn't get a mention in OJA so not sure on his well being. Easy for horses to get forgotten in the Mullins yard given his depth of talent.

Lisnagar Fortune is still a maiden over hurdles so they could continue down that road but his two performances so far have left a lot to be desired and you'd have to assume he'd be miles down the Mullins pecking order for either novice discipline.
 
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Hoping someone can help?
What would be the best way of contacting the forum re any help I may need….. Forgotten password etc
Is there an e-mail address for this sort of thing?

Kind regards
 
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