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Grand Canyon said:
Does anybody else have all bets involving Vauban for MC greyed out for cash out with 365 ? I notice he's gone back out to 6/1 with them,
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My bets with him have always been greyed out on 365. Didn’t know he’s been pushed out though
 
Re: BF/PP shithousery, does anyone know what happens to bets placed under previous t&c's? Surely they have to pay out to what the stated figures were at the time bets were placed? Otherwise it leaves the door open to all manner of nonsense. It's an unlikely problem to encounter granted, but it'd be useful to know.
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Re: BF/PP shithousery, does anyone know what happens to bets placed under previous t&c's? Surely they have to pay out to what the stated figures were at the time bets were placed? Otherwise it leaves the door open to all manner of nonsense. It's an unlikely problem to encounter granted, but it'd be useful to know.
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Just got a response from PP regarding this - "the bet would be paid out in line with the maximum payout limit at the time of settlement, not of bet placement".
 
On The Fringe said:
Just got a response from PP regarding this - "the bet would be paid out in line with the maximum payout limit at the time of settlement, not of bet placement".
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I think that is wrong and, if that’s their position, they would be forced to retract.
it might take legal action but I can t see how it’s acceptable to amend the terms of a contract after the contract is agreed without the consent of both parties, in contract law what they’re suggesting would be unlawful…
 
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On The Fringe said:
Just got a response from PP regarding this - "the bet would be paid out in line with the maximum payout limit at the time of settlement, not of bet placement".
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Yeah just got something similar too when asked on social media. Outrageous. In theory they could take a seasons worth of antepost bets on Cheltenham then significantly reduce the t&c's on the eve of declarations or whenever beforehand, to whatever their traders feel like. And this presumably is somehow legal.
 
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Atlantic Viking said:
Yeah just got something similar too when asked on social media. Outrageous. In theory they could take a seasons worth of antepost bets on Cheltenham then significantly reduce the t&c's on the eve of declarations or whenever beforehand, to whatever their traders feel like. And this presumably is somehow legal.
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Queried it further and got:
Any changes made to the max payouts on markets would be made in line with any rules and regulations in place by the gambling commissions.
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Queried it further and got:
Any changes made to the max payouts on markets would be made in line with any rules and regulations in place by the gambling commissions.
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Who is the ‘Gambling Commissions’ ?
Sounds like you’re talking to the Mumbai call centre, no offence intended, and you might be better off putting in a complaint which will get actioned by UK/Ire staff who presumably have a better understanding of gambling laws….
 
Istabraq said:
Who is the ‘Gambling Commissions’ ?
Sounds like you’re talking to the Mumbai call centre, no offence intended, and you might be better off putting in a complaint which will get actioned by UK/Ire staff who presumably have a better understanding of gambling laws….
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I asked a question on twitter as first port of call about half an hour ago, give me a chance eh :excitement: im also not a lawyer, but I am like a rabid dog with 10 d1cks if there's grounds to challenge something so if anyone who knows about this sort of thing (contract law, not veterinary/mutant animal stuff) thinks the bookies are talking out of their arse, i'll do my bit.
 
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I agree with ista
and the logical thinking of AV
cant change terms when it suits
 
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Saxon Warrior said:
Some Twitter noise on bookmakers cutting antepost horse racing limits without telling anyone.

Just checked and

Betfair
Paddy Power

Have maximum Future Betting limits of

gbp 50,000
down​ from gbp 250,000

Utter disgrace.
A big firm offering titchy firm limits
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Probably this is what happens when UK/IRE bookies sell out for a fortune to big US firms.

Theres also the same rumours on Twitter that
Coral and Ladbrokes have cut antepost horse racing max payouts from a million to 100K
- I havent found that has happened in their t's and c's yet.

I doubt the new owners know or care much about UK/IRE antepost horse race betting, as maybe its not much of a thing in their own country.

Looks like you can still win a million quid off them by backing after decs, so I will be aiming to do that on Cheltenham Festival week.

Keep in mind that 50K Max will most likely mean max payout on settlement day, for bets placed under this reduced limit

So if you then load up lots of 50K payout bets with them, all ending with a Friday Cheltenham Festival horse, then the payout may end up a max 50K, even if you've won well over 50K across several different bets, placed at different times.
 
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Saxon Warrior said:
Probably this is what happens when UK/IRE bookies sell out for a fortune to big US firms.

Theres also the same rumours on Twitter that
Coral and Ladbrokes have cut antepost horse racing max payouts from a million to 100K
- I havent found that has happened in their t's and c's yet.

I doubt the new owners know or care much about UK/IRE antepost horse race betting, as maybe its not much of a thing in their own country.

Looks like you can still win a million quid off them by backing after decs, so I will be aiming to do that on Cheltenham Festival week.

Keep in mind that 50K Max will most likely mean max payout on settlement day, for bets placed under this reduced limit

So if you then load up lots of 50K payout bets with them, all ending with a Friday Cheltenham Festival horse, then the payout may end up a max 50K, even if you've won well over 50K across several different bets, placed at different times.
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The game is going. Affordability checks, restricted accounts and pretty much no longer laying bets.
 
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….I’m sure I’m not alone in mopping up on those BFSB multiples offer. Plenty of big priced Yankees already placed so I’ll be interested if the original T&Cs apply.

No more Yankees I think.
 
Never gamble more than you can afford
Neve gamble when feeling upset or depressed
Never gamble when feeling angry
And NEVER NEVER EVER place an ante post yankee with Paddy Power and expect to win over 50k
 
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Saxon Warrior said:
Probably this is what happens when UK/IRE bookies sell out for a fortune to big US firms.

Theres also the same rumours on Twitter that
Coral and Ladbrokes have cut antepost horse racing max payouts from a million to 100K
- I havent found that has happened in their t's and c's yet.

I doubt the new owners know or care much about UK/IRE antepost horse race betting, as maybe its not much of a thing in their own country.

Looks like you can still win a million quid off them by backing after decs, so I will be aiming to do that on Cheltenham Festival week.

Keep in mind that 50K Max will most likely mean max payout on settlement day, for bets placed under this reduced limit

So if you then load up lots of 50K payout bets with them, all ending with a Friday Cheltenham Festival horse, then the payout may end up a max 50K, even if you've won well over 50K across several different bets, placed at different times.
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….presume ‘backing after declarations’ means final declarations?
 
Spent 1 1/2hrs with customer services so far and now have a case number and told to expect an email. We will fight them on the beaches, in the live chat etc...
 
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