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[Big Bucks]

They have a paywalled section for videos yeah. So some 'free' and some paid for.

Out of interest what price? When did this start? All open Questions to the forum BTW, and anyone any strong views on this? Think they are big enough yet to start this? Content good enough? I know it seemed like they had a decent amount of young followers, but I'm quite surprised they have jumped in this early with a paywal service, suppose keeping both options open at the moment showing free content and maybe long term plan to make it paid service full time?

Interesting.

 

[RoadToCheltenham]

Josh Stacey has tweeted that Queens Gamble has moved to Harry Derham’s yard. Apparently Oliver Sherwood has been based with Harry since retiring last month. Could be an interesting move. Derham had a great first season but without a real superstar. She could be it.

Surprised it's taken so long for this news to come out - was registered to her new yard on 18th July. She could be a nice type but not top drawer for me - the field she beat on her hurdles debut are a combined 0-39 under rules and a RPR of 102 is hardly inspiring.

 

[HesTheOne]

Out of interest what price? When did this start? All open Questions to the forum BTW, and anyone any strong views on this? Think they are big enough yet to start this? Content good enough? I know it seemed like they had a decent amount of young followers, but I'm quite surprised they have jumped in this early with a paywal service, suppose keeping both options open at the moment showing free content and maybe long term plan to make it paid service full time?

Interesting.

Pretty sure they had a element of it last year towards end of season where they did extra videos/vlogs etc.

I think it’s like 2 quid or something like that.

To be fair to the lads I think they know their audience and aren’t going to alienate many by paywalling the good stuff seams to be just an extra video for those that want a Paul Nolan nag.

To your question are they big enough, I think yes. I really like their style and they are making huge headways with Racing TV they 100% are the future presenters for that channel in years to come.

As any good juvenile they have summered well on grass and do come across more polished and mature but still have an entertaining side.

Personally I don’t think any of the other poddies come close in terms of short, concise well edited entertaining content.

I absolutely dread the 60 min zoom call videos that ramble on without an agenda you see elsewhere on the circus. LTR style is exactly what I like.

 

[Exar Essay]

Out of interest what price? When did this start? All open Questions to the forum BTW, and anyone any strong views on this? Think they are big enough yet to start this? Content good enough? I know it seemed like they had a decent amount of young followers, but I'm quite surprised they have jumped in this early with a paywal service, suppose keeping both options open at the moment showing free content and maybe long term plan to make it paid service full time?

Interesting.

?3 a month and it’s their third choice each week in ranking order. So free stuff is still ‘their best’. Also they tell you who that horse is anyway the following week so all in all, it’s a pretty fair way of doing it.

Might be dipping their toe in the water with more focus on paid stuff next year. Who knows?

 

[Exar Essay]

Surprised it's taken so long for this news to come out - was registered to her new yard on 18th July. She could be a nice type but not top drawer for me - the field she beat on her hurdles debut are a combined 0-39 under rules and a RPR of 102 is hardly inspiring.

I agree and took her on a couple of times last year. But I do think Harry Derham will bring her on. One to keep an eye on for sure.

 

[RoadToCheltenham]

Some fairly high profile names who have been retired since the end of the 2023 Festival - not sure if we'd like those included on the 'Out of the Festival 2024' thread down the line or not but just to refresh:

- Bristol de Mai
- Bob And Co
- Buzz
- Chacun Pour Soi
- Clan Des Obeaux
- Coole Cody
- Fusil Raffles
- Honeysuckle
- Imperial Alcazar
- Kalashnikov
- Kincardine
- Liberty Dance
- Saldier
- Shewearsitwell
- Sporting John
- The Storyteller

 

[Deleted member 4957]

Some fairly high profile names who have been retired since the end of the 2023 Festival - not sure if we'd like those included on the 'Out of the Festival 2024' thread down the line or not but just to refresh:

- Bristol de Mai
- Bob And Co
- Buzz
- Chacun Pour Soi
- Clan Des Obeaux
- Coole Cody
- Fusil Raffles
- Imperial Alcazar
- Kalashnikov
- Kincardine
- Liberty Dance
- Saldier
- Shewearsitwell
- Sporting John
- The Storyteller

Good idea RTC, will set thread up now...

 

[RoadToCheltenham]

Good idea RTC, will set thread up now...

Fab. I missed Honeysuckle, though 99.9% of people hopefully knew that one.

 

[HesTheOne]

Good idea RTC, will set thread up now...

Heart still skipped a beat seeing the out of fez thread.. even though I seen this post 30s previous

 

[Deleted member 4957]

Heart still skipped a beat seeing the out of fez thread.. even though I seen this post 30s previous

The scariest thread on FJ.
What your message does is provides a reminder on how sensitive that thread can be, so the only entries should be factual confirmation of horses that won't go, all related discussion should be within other threads...

 

[fatherjohn]

Salvador ziggy out today- 2nd run over fences. I havent checked details but feels like how elliot like to prepare for for nhc. get a couple of early runs in - hopefully another at the course and then put them away.

edit: given about comments maybe I shouldn't have said out

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Rather than clog up charlie diary, does anyone know the injuries that kept out both Minella Cocooner and The Nice Guy last season? Happy to receive the information via. DM if need be.

 

[Lobos]

Salvador ziggy out today- 2nd run over fences. I havent checked details but feels like how elliot like to prepare for for nhc. get a couple of early runs in - hopefully another at the course and then put them away.

edit: given about comments maybe I shouldn't have said out

What do you mean re the edit bit Fatherjohn??

 

[Benjy23]

What do you mean re the edit bit Fatherjohn??

He means that 'out' sounded like injured or whatever in the context of the above conversation. That was how I initially read his first sentence also.

But he meant 'out' as in 'running today'.

 

[Exar Essay]

Salvador ziggy out today- 2nd run over fences. I havent checked details but feels like how elliot like to prepare for for nhc. get a couple of early runs in - hopefully another at the course and then put them away.

edit: given about comments maybe I shouldn't have said out

Did that nicely. PP have left him at 12's which seems reasonable for Gordon's leading candidate in the context of AP markets these days.

 

[Lobos]

He means that 'out' sounded like injured or whatever in the context of the above conversation. That was how I initially read his first sentence also.

But he meant 'out' as in 'running today'.

Gotcha:encouragement:

 

[Atlantic Viking]

Nice enough from Salvador Ziggy, changed his mind at a couple but smart enough to get away with it, pulled away easily.

 

[Lobos]

Just need those post race comments

 

[darlojim]

Just need those post race comments

Nothing from Gordon....

Jack was very happy, ground probably went deep enough for him and the track was tight enough and didn't really suit him, as good a horse youll see round tramore this time of year..

 

[RoadToCheltenham]

Just need those post race comments

Gordon Elliott-Salvador Ziggy
@TramoreRaces
: "It was a good performance again even though he was getting a few pounds off two of them. Jack (Kennedy) said further he went, better he got. He probably wasn't in love with track or maybe ground. He could be horse for Kerry National."​