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darlojim said:
We need a billymag update

I can't see much has changed really though. There's been no surprise calls from other trainers as to targets, and Billy had mentioned other horses had no bearing on where he was going.
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Willie saying ZTB will go down the champ hurdle route for the double green does have some weight to the Impaire target. No one expects ZTB to be winning a champ hurdle realistically, so you’d wonder why he said it bar he’s throwing a bone to how they are thinking with the options
 
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HesTheOne said:
Willie saying ZTB will go down the champ hurdle route for the double green does have some weight to the Impaire target. No one expects ZTB to be winning a champ hurdle realistically, so you’d wonder why he said it bar he’s throwing a bone to how they are thinking with the options
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Willie is perhaps a little puddled? His post race comments this year really have been strange, and then he contradicts them and suggests that he’s not even discussed any future plans.
mill post a few comments in the members section
 
billymag said:
Plan is still hurdling, message me for the exact quote but no change
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Excellent. At least with him in there it won't be a complete bore of a walkover.
 
billymag said:
Plan is still hurdling, message me for the exact quote but no change
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Really appreciate the info and I'm comfortably out of my positions I had on him for Turners in profit, but I still find this an absolutely remarkable decision...
 
Odin said:
Really appreciate the info and I'm comfortably out of my positions I had on him for Turners in profit, but I still find this an absolutely remarkable decision...
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Can only think he’s been schooled and jumps like a fridge for the champion hurdle to even be considered
 
Zachx02 said:
As good as IEP is if he performs like he did over at punchestown again at 2 miles I'd probably class that as a walkover
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Have a feeling that wasn't his running at all. Willie looked pissed right off after the race. He expected more. It was Punchestown though and I do not trust that form a lot of the time . Long hard season.
 
Odin said:
Really appreciate the info and I'm comfortably out of my positions I had on him for Turners in profit, but I still find this an absolutely remarkable decision...
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That's why we are punters and not trainers. Willie knows best. He's a nice EW price should CH bomb out this season. Great to have as cover along with State Man. The winner will come from those 3 for sure.
 
Zachx02 said:
As good as IEP is if he performs like he did over at punchestown again at 2 miles I'd probably class that as a walkover
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The hill on the snaff

IEP simply doesn't have the speed to trouble him

Baffling decision if both IEP and state man stay over hurdles
 
Lobos said:
That's why we are punters and not trainers. Willie knows best. He's a nice EW price should CH bomb out this season. Great to have as cover along with State Man. The winner will come from those 3 for sure.
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Wholly agree around the punters not trainers part - I got journey with me completely wrong as well
Only situation that logically makes sense to me is a tilt at the stayers now before going rsa and then gold cup (or winning multiple stayers) but even that supposedly isn't happening now due to Gaelic warrior. I just can't get my head around the champion hurdle option so I'll just leave the race alone with a marine national loser and state man possible still running.
 
Both Marine Nationale and IEP looked very classy Champion Hurdle types when winning their respective novice races at Cheltenham.

If Willie keeps IEP hurdling then if I was State Man's owner I'd be asking why ?
Does he think he's better than State Man at this stage of his career and will improve past him ?
 
Kautostar said:
Someone’s been busy getting loads of horses added. I’ve not even heard of half of them. Going to have to start doing some research
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Had a look through this evening, loads of the nicer type Irish P2P ones are there. Some do interest me but not sure to play the twar price now or get them added to other specific race markets as most don’t appear with any other firm.

Wont be long before the books and circuits begin and these lot get hyped up when JPs name is stuck on and a few rocket emojis
 
At the risk of hyping one up, does anyone know where Jeriko Du Reponet ended up? I'd heard a rumour but seen nothing reliable. He was my pick of the 4yo's.
 
Exar Essay said:
At the risk of hyping one up, does anyone know where Jeriko Du Reponet ended up? I'd heard a rumour but seen nothing reliable. He was my pick of the 4yo's.
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One im very much wanting to know also...

I've heard JP has bought him but not concrete info
 
Not sure on the right thread for this but will try here...

With the new dissent/time wasting rules enforced this weekend, there may be some nice roll up opportunities for player card bets in the early weeks of the season. Sure the bookies will cotton on and shorten those markets sooner rather than later but I'm sure for now there is a chance to make the most of these.

Bruno Fernandes @ 7/2 vs Wolves on Monday night just one example where i think the price is reasonable.
 
RoadToCheltenham said:
Not sure on the right thread for this but will try here...

With the new dissent/time wasting rules enforced this weekend, there may be some nice roll up opportunities for player card bets in the early weeks of the season. Sure the bookies will cotton on and shorten those markets sooner rather than later but I'm sure for now there is a chance to make the most of these.

Bruno Fernandes @ 7/2 vs Wolves on Monday night just one example where i think the price is reasonable.
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There’s a fella on Twitter called ‘TheCardDealer’ specialises in bookings bets, runs them models for expected value etc I used him quite abit during the euros and found he had a pretty good success rate at nice prices. Haven’t looked in a long time but it’s free of course btw.

Worth a 1st look if people are looking for similar edges
 
Rarely bet on football even though I watch every game that's broadcast near enough.

But I was thinking about edge's in football betting in this early season and with them effectively playing around 10% more actual game time, ball in play, and the new discipline rules, this means goals and bookings should increase on average, particularly with any fatigue factor also.

Wouldn't be sure which markets would be best to follow myself, but anything around total goals/cards or over and under markets would be worth analysing just in case the bookies have not fully factored it just yet, or got the balance right.
 
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