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Right FJ's i needs ya help. Deff doing the fest away next year and now looking at Tenerife. Never been before but knows some of you have done the fest from there before. So looking for some help of the best part of the island to stay with a bit of life at night but me raving days are long gone. Cheers Mike.

I did Tenerife for it this year Mike and I'm so glad I did, it was excellent, so so many bars make a big deal of it and loads of people go for that week so the atmosphere is great all over. Defo gonna go again next year, sitting in the sunshine drinking 2 euro pints with lots of like minded punters, what's not to like.

Think we got flights and apartment for ?340 each for 9 nights. So 2 weekends of football, the festival and its usually champions league week then too so if you love footy n racing it's a fantastic little getaway.

As for where to stay I would defo recommend Los Cristianos, plenty of bars open late 12/1am that are decent with sport and live entertainment every night. I'd recommend El Mirador strip and the Funchal strip.

Id avoid Las Americas, there's maybe the odd bar that is alright but on a whole there's a lot more of the tourist trap Irish bars with poor pints and double the price and its where the clubs are located so you get a lot more of the pissed up idiots.

Costa Adeje is nice too, alot more like Los Cristianos than Adeje but things are a bit more spread out, my preference is definitely for Los Cris but wouldn't put you off Costa Adeje.

One thing I would advise, is booking tables at bars a few weeks/a month in advance as I said its very popular, especially in the racing bars that have racing on day in day out. We booked 4 different places one for each day and it was great at all of them. I'd highly recommend Hoppy's Bar in Costa Adeje/Torviscas for the Thursday. Lovely pint and there's bars either side of it that do food, then straight after the racing has finished they have a really good singer on, and with a packed bar who have been on the beers for a few hours it made for a great atmosphere and end to that days racing.

Any other questions mate let me know, it's my favourite place in the world and iv been going 3/4 times a year for the past 15 years so I'm a bit of a tenerife cheerleader haha.
 
Cheers HoldenTheReins and Many Clouds. Will be flying out on the 10/3 but only for the week. Costa Adeje is looking good at the mo as found a All Inc which we like the look of so nice to know we can watch the racing in the town. Wont be booking anything for about a month but need to book by the end of July as we can get ?60 off each with Jet2. Just booked Hotel and tickets for the curtain opener at Chepstow as well as like there 2 day meeting in Oct.
 
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Has to be a Kim Muir plot surely ?
Likely to get done by the classier Irish and I would hope Pipe has more sense than Hendo did with Mister Coffee, accept that and take the easier option, Pipe has OK record in Kim Muir…
 
Any interest in salvador ziggy for the NH running tomorrow in a novice?

Yep. With Hubrisko in there the Maxxum form will be tested so we can compare form.
 
Yep. With Hubrisko in there the Maxxum form will be tested so we can compare form.

I'm happy with what I have got on Maxxum at a decent price, I'll prob do a little double with the Greek today and try to get Salvador in board to boost the price
 
Ziggy got the job done very nicely. Looks a proper 3 miler so hoping that’s the way he’ll be campaigned
 
Ziggy got the job done very nicely. Looks a proper 3 miler so hoping that’s the way he’ll be campaigned

Didn't see the race had a 7lb pull with the runner up and on a line through that one I'm struggling to understand the NH Chase market where Maxxum is available at near double the price of S Ziggy.
Will watch the race later...
 
It may have been the camera angle but it looked to me like Hubrisko just took his foot completely off the gas approaching the second last and then he just rode in only picking up again on the final run in after the last. Made Ziggy look good... possibly better than he is.
 
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This is my reasoning as to IEP going for champion hurdle. Please feel to shoot me down.
1. Double green already have 2 graded race chasers. They don’t have a champion hurdler.
2. Ballymore winners do well in next years champion hurdle.
3. Statesman won’t beat CH, but IEP just might. When he’s in open company, IEP will improve past stateman, and be willies number one 2m hurdler.
4. Post ballymore, Willie strongly hinted at champion hurdle for winner. He was also on fire before punchestown.
5. Recency bias. If IEP had run before stateman, Willie might have said something quite different post race. How can he be disappointed with IEP? Did better than stateman year before.
6. Who wants a turners winner? Churdle all day. And if IEP goes chasing, why not arkle?
there. I’ve had my say!!
 
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This is my reasoning as to IEP going for champion hurdle. Please feel to shoot me down.
1. Double green already have 2 graded race chasers. They don’t have a champion hurdler.
2. Ballymore winners do well in next years champion hurdle.
3. Statesman won’t beat CH, but IEP just might. When he’s in open company, IEP will improve past stateman, and be willies number one 2m hurdler.
4. Post ballymore, Willie strongly hinted at champion hurdle for winner. He was also on fire before punchestown.
5. Recency bias. If IEP had run before stateman, Willie might have said something quite different post race. How can he be disappointed with IEP? Did better than stateman year before.
6. Who wants a turners winner? Churdle all day. And if IEP goes chasing, why not arkle?
there. I’ve had my say!!

Why waste two bullets trying to beat constitution hill? Fences for me assuming CH stays hurdling
 
In my opinion, IEP is the only fella that has the potential to serve it up to CH next year. We’ll see. For sure, he’d be up for the turners and arkle if he went chasing. I just feel that he’s a much better horse than facile vega, and out of the two, he’s the one that will go arkle rather than facile vega. But I feel he’s churdle bound.
 
In my opinion, IEP is the only fella that has the potential to serve it up to CH next year. We’ll see. For sure, he’d be up for the turners and arkle if he went chasing. I just feel that he’s a much better horse than facile vega, and out of the two, he’s the one that will go arkle rather than facile vega. But I feel he’s churdle bound.

Didn't he disappoint Mullins by being caught out for pace on the home turn at Punchestown?

Stayed on to win nicely in the end, at the end of a 2M4F race.

Didn't scream Champion Hurdle that day.

That seemed to be the meeting where Willie thought
● State Man would stay hurdling
● Facile Vega would be a 2M Novice chaser
● IEP was being positioned as more likely to be Novice chaser

FV he said, '2M and stay there unless there was reason to go out in trip'.

This being his mantra generally for horses proven to be Grade1, 2M winners.

They can take more races at 2M and not be burnt out.

He could change his mind of course, or revert back to earlier thinking (seemed to like IEP as a Champion Hurdler after the Ballymore).

Maybe what Con.Hill does could have a bearing too.